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The bigger question for me is why American Protestants and their colonial programs do it :amerikkka: :stalin-gun-1: :stalin-gun-2:

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Puritanical anti-sex and anti-masturbation attitudes, basically.

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Kellogg (yes, the cereal guy) was a contributing factor. He was also a segregationist https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sex-dawn/200902/time-boycott-kellogg

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Corn flakes

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It’s easier to perform surgery on an infant than to tell a child they need to clean themselves lest they get an infection.

Also sex is bad and you’ll die if you do it a lot so it has to feel less good than it does.

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It’s easier to perform surgery on an infant than to tell a child they need to clean themselves lest they get an infection.

Semi-fun fact: circumcision is the only routine “prophylactic” surgery performed in modern medicine.

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The reason Americans do it is actually because it’s covered as standard in health insurance so doctors bring up the option. In the UK rates of circumcision were identical to the US until the NHS wouldn’t cover it and US health insurance started including it as standard.

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Protestants love cosplaying as Jews, adapting the “chosen people” language to themselves.

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The origin is probably multi-faceted, but I’ve read that the practice evolved in part as a more humane replacement for the Pagan practice of ritual sacrifice (which is forbidden in Judaism). Instead of sacrificing a whole human life to show your devotion to god, you’re giving up the most valuable and erogenous part of the male body.

It should be noted that the history of circumcision in the US has remarkably little to do with Judaism (or Islam, for that matter, which is also a circumcising religion), and everything to do with puritanical Protestants, so blaming Jews for the prevalence of circumcision today is extra idiotic. The historical Jewish circumcision also happens to remove a lot less tissue than the more destructive American version (hurray). The Statue of David is actually circumcised in this manner although it appears uncircumcised compared to American penises.

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Kind of like a secret handshake. To let people of the same kind know who each other are so they can show ingroup solidarity towards each other. I’m not saying they whip out their dicks and have a swordfight, but an extreme body modification like that is impossible to fake and unlikely to be done by anyone other than the faithful.

Then at some point it became standard in US hospitals to mutilate newborn boys in this way. It was done to me when I was a few days old and nobody asked for anyone’s consent.

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As a Jew who is circumcised, I’ve never understood the fuss. Sex still feels amazing, I like how my dick looks… idk. Like, nothing against people who are uncircumcized or people who are and wish they weren’t… obviously everyone gets to have their own opinions about their own bodies… but I’ve just never understood it personally.

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No, no. you misunderstood. I’m merely saying that I understand and respect the validity of the opinion of those who are upset that it was done to them. while expressing that I’m personally quite content with my parents decision to have me circumcised.

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No two circumcisions (or penises for that matter) are identical. My cut left me with little sensation in my dick, which makes it difficult for me to orgasm. I also have zero gliding mechanism remaining because I got cut “high and tight” style, so I can’t masturbate for long before it gets tears and bleeds. Even if sex feels amazing you never know what you’re missing out on (NSFW example), like a person born colorblind. I once heard an intact cis-man describe the sensation as “if I could lend you a foreskin for one day you would flee the country and change your identity to keep it forever”. I’m a bisexual man and I love playing with cute men’s foreskins and it makes me sad when I compare theirs to my scar—which disturbs me additionally because I see it as two pieces of dissimilar skin tissue (mucousal and regular) that are fused together in a Frankenstein way. There is also the matter of the trauma from the pain (it’s not possible to sufficiently aenesthetize a newborn as they could for an adult going through the same procedure), which can effect a permanent change in personality even without a conscious memory of the event. It fucks me up to think about how something like that could have changed me psychologically, even if the possibility is small.

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according to Sapolsky, stuff like this is plausibly the result of a obsessive compulsive personality disorder among shamans

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It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers, who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism. Among the Jews there are kulaks, exploiters and capitalists, just as there are among the Russians, and among people of all nations. The capitalists strive to sow and foment hatred between workers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Those who do not work are kept in power by the power and strength of capital. Rich Jews, like rich Russians, and the rich in all countries, are in alliance to oppress, crush, rob and disunite the workers.

Shame on accursed tsarism which tortured and persecuted the Jews. Shame on those who foment hatred towards the Jews, who foment hatred towards other nations.

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