Anytime anything popular gets dragged here there’s always a few “let people enjoy things” and “don’t ruin peoples fun” and “don’t be a weird cynical hipster” and what have you.

Except for the most popular series of children books in history. For whatever reason that’s apparently weapons free for Hater Team 6 to go to town on. I’ve seen people say was shouldn’t ruin peoples “favorite toy” when it comes to sports, Twilight, Marvel Movies and astrology, but what makes those sacrosanct and Harry Potter fair game?

This applies somewhat to Hamilton too.

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Because people don’t enjoy harry potter. People identify with it. It is taken to the core of who they are because we fundamentally lack any systemic moral or ethical education in the west. Harry potter is as close to a philosophy as most libs have and it fucking sucks. Quidditch players simply enjoy harry potter and that fine. We don’t shit on them.

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:this:

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well said!

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Quidditch players simply enjoy harry potter and that fine. We don’t shit on them.

The American quidditch leagues are rebranding to remove any association with Harry Potter because most of them also hate Rowling now.

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I worked at one of their games once good people.

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Would like to echo that there’s a difference between “enjoying” something and “identifying with” something.

I liked the Harry Potter series when I was younger, like it a bit less after some things that were pointed out and the ideas that JK not only expresses but openly advocating for.

I absolutely loved Ender’s Game when I was growing up but the author is absolutely trash. I keep meaning to find a copy to reread as a middle aged adult instead of a tween/teenager.

Hamilton is actually dangerous. Smarter people than me have pointed out that its revisionist as fuck and people are actively thinking they are learning history from consuming the slop from that trough.

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Why is Hamilton so dangerous?

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I’m not enough of a history aficionado to be able to copy/pasta bullet points. Sorry.

But from some of the history themed podcasts I’ve listened to over the years that talked about the musical, their opinion was that it was ahistorical.

It would be like a Hitler/Third Reich musical that frames their part in WW2 as just trying to build up their economy and give their people something to be proud of after their loss during WW1. But completely omitting all the atrocities, racism, institutionalized evil, etc.

This might not be horrible, except that there are people who think that they are learning US history by watching/listening to Hamilton.

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It would be like a Hitler/Third Reich musical that frames their part in WW2 as just trying to build up their economy and give their people something to be proud of after their loss during WW1. But completely omitting all the atrocities, racism, institutionalized evil, etc.

To extend your metaphor, your Springtime for Hitler would tout a Jewish cast to laud itself as progressive and further launder the third reich’s reputation

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You literally described “Springtime for Hitler” from the producers.

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i will not let people enjoy antisemitism, pro-copaganda, transphobia, etc.

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I don’t recall anything transphobic in the books specifically, the author is just transphobic.

Like 90% of media is pro cop.

Okay the antisemitism part is fair.

Twilight as some weird pedo undertones yet we let people enjoy that.

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I don’t recall anything transphobic in the books specifically

I discovered this recently, but the character of Rita Skeeter has some sus characterization

https://twitter.com/ponettplus/status/1270133803328159748

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Adding onto that tweet, Rita Skeeter is also an unregistered animagus and transforms into a beetle in order to gain access to places so she can spy on her subjects . Which is incredibly sus in context of JKR’s transphobic views

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:jesus-christ:

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this is, of course, on top of all the antisemitic subtext with the goblin bankers, and the subplot about how hermione is being silly by trying to free the house elves because they LIKE being slaves, and the one asian character being named “cho chang,” and on and on and on

wait what the fuck I haven’t read the books in years, she literally named the only asian character that. Fucking fuck.

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Twilight as some weird pedo undertones yet we let people enjoy that.

I have vague memories of reading/watching a fair amount of content pointing out how cringy the dynamic is between a barely legal teenaged girl and a forever young hundred year old vampire boy was.

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Twilight as some weird pedo undertones

Well you sort of expect that kind of stuff when its written by a Mormon considering their founder married and fucked 14 year olds.

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I simply do not consume media :gigachad:

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As a pure communist I only stare at the grass growing during summer and paint drying during winter :gigachad-hd:

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Paint is bourgeois revisionism! :gulag:

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:meow-knit: no pls i swear ill just watch ice freeze instead! no!

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