Anytime anything popular gets dragged here there’s always a few “let people enjoy things” and “don’t ruin peoples fun” and “don’t be a weird cynical hipster” and what have you.

Except for the most popular series of children books in history. For whatever reason that’s apparently weapons free for Hater Team 6 to go to town on. I’ve seen people say was shouldn’t ruin peoples “favorite toy” when it comes to sports, Twilight, Marvel Movies and astrology, but what makes those sacrosanct and Harry Potter fair game?

This applies somewhat to Hamilton too.

There’s probably a consensus here that Harry Potter is one of the more obviously sinister media franchises, given how horrible its creator is. It’s also more common for people to associate Harry Potter with their political ideology, well it’s common for outspoken liberals to do that. I think that’s it honestly, Harry Potter is something only liberals seem to like, so it’s immediately associated with liberalism here. Those other things you mentioned are more broad in their audiences.

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Harry Potter is something only liberals seem to like

Idk man, it was something almost EVERY kid liked back when I was growing up. I never read them cuz my mom was going through a weird Christian fundamentalist phase when they came out and so witchcraft was a no no, but fucking every kid who read books back then was reading them, I doubt they all grew up to be Libs. I guess libs are the only ones who still openly fawn over the books as adults tho.

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Yeah, there might be a distinction between people who liked Harry Potter as a child (nearly every kid 20 years ago) and adults who continue to bring up the franchise as something they’re still engaged with. Liberals are certainly the only ones who frame their political ideology in terms of what Hogwarts house they belong to.

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Even if JKR wasn’t a shithead, HP would still suck because the morality is that of nobility/capitalists. The muggles are sheeple who deserve nothing.

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I can’t help being a hater, I’m in house slytherin

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There’s nothing quite like showing up to a job interview and the senior tech sitting in on your interview with your future manager just happens to be wearing a Harry Potter Nazi House lanyard.

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tHeYrE nOt nAZis mErLiN wAs a SnEk bOi

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The retellings of the Arthurian legend always leave off the part where Merlin calls Morgan le Fay a m*dblood and proceeds to turn around and whip his chattel slave-elves to within an inch of their lives.

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i will not let people enjoy antisemitism, pro-copaganda, transphobia, etc.

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I don’t recall anything transphobic in the books specifically, the author is just transphobic.

Like 90% of media is pro cop.

Okay the antisemitism part is fair.

Twilight as some weird pedo undertones yet we let people enjoy that.

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Twilight as some weird pedo undertones

Well you sort of expect that kind of stuff when its written by a Mormon considering their founder married and fucked 14 year olds.

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I don’t recall anything transphobic in the books specifically

I discovered this recently, but the character of Rita Skeeter has some sus characterization

https://twitter.com/ponettplus/status/1270133803328159748

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:jesus-christ:

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Adding onto that tweet, Rita Skeeter is also an unregistered animagus and transforms into a beetle in order to gain access to places so she can spy on her subjects . Which is incredibly sus in context of JKR’s transphobic views

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this is, of course, on top of all the antisemitic subtext with the goblin bankers, and the subplot about how hermione is being silly by trying to free the house elves because they LIKE being slaves, and the one asian character being named “cho chang,” and on and on and on

wait what the fuck I haven’t read the books in years, she literally named the only asian character that. Fucking fuck.

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Twilight as some weird pedo undertones yet we let people enjoy that.

I have vague memories of reading/watching a fair amount of content pointing out how cringy the dynamic is between a barely legal teenaged girl and a forever young hundred year old vampire boy was.

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JK Rowling is an actively campaigning bigot and the franchise historically centers her as the grand visionary guiding it all. And the pro-slavery shit was always appalling.

People hate Twilight for all the wrong reasons, but it is a remarkable multi-faceted gem of fucked up bullshit. But Meyer (probably) isn’t a loud, active bigot against people I love, so I have more fun revisiting it.

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JK Rowling is an actively campaigning bigot

I kinda feel like we were hatin on it before she came out as full blown TERF.

Also isn’t Meyers like a hardcore Mormon? Pretty sure she has Garbo opinions, she’s just smart enough to keep them on the DL.

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I think that was general complaining about nostalgia culture and adults carrying their regressive childhood passions forward as totems of their identity. Then she became (or always was, honestly) a transphobe.

Meyer absolutely does, they come out in the writing. I revisit it to remind myself how much awful shit I missed as a kid and how it fit into the zeitgeist of that time, but also to sus out what drew me to it in the first place, since I’ve had a wide range of opinions on it.

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She’s been a known TERF for like a decade. The first 2-3 years of it were her dog whistling transphobic shit, trans people calling it out, and then cis libs saying trans people were overreacting.

That stopped around the time she wrote that whole novel about the crossdressing serial killer man that murders women in bathrooms.

It was really funny watching all the people who defended Rowling either delete their tweets, publicly self-crit, or admit they were also TERFs lol

Honestly that might be a part of my hate for Harry Potter. A bunch of losers decided their make believe baby book was more important than being against bigotry.

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It’s an honored pastime.

I went from superfan to antifan very quickly. Probably after a Cracked article. People righteously tearing it to shreds taught me a lot about reading with a critical eye, so it’s an interesting barometer for me.

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