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The most honest answer is cuba
The best answer is go fuck yourself
This is always such a stupid argument. China (criticize if you want, hell it might even be revisionist, it’s still socialist) took 50 years to nearly catch up to the US which had 500 years of brutal exploitation behind it. China has even surpassed the UK, which undoubtedly killed more people than either the US or China. Similarly the Soviet Union was able to go from a failing backwater to the second strongest state in the world in 30 years. Cuba and Vietnam are both doing excellent for their size and regions and if you compared their economic growths to countries that remained “capitalist” or rather victims of imperialism, it is obvious which model is superior.
if you compared their economic growths to countries that remained “capitalist” or rather victims of imperialism, it is obvious which model is superior.
The exceptions being the regions the USA needed to build up as bulwarks against communism: South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, West Germany, etc.
just say ‘soviet union and china you dumb dipshit, bye’
Cuba is such an easy answer to this.
Compare whichever quality of life metric you want against everyone else in the Caribbean and they’ll be in the top 10% despite a decades-long embargo from the world’s largest economy.
Yugoslavia. Cuba. Vietnam.
Don’t let him pin you on command economies either. Marx, Trotsky (I know but it’s pre 1925) and others all support limited markets, shadow pricing, or similar in an egalitarian framwork as an option during the transition to higher stage socialism.
Point out that there is in fact no such thing as a Communist country (and indeed there cannot be such a thing), only Socialist countries ruled by a Communist party.
