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Anything of material consequence

Which he’s done. Ask one of the people who were pardoned from their federal possession charges, or received student loan relief. If those aren’t material consequence you’ll need to more clearly define what you mean by the term.

this is the difference between liberals and communists.

So you understand neither term

You think bourgeois politicians act in good faith or have your actual material interests at heart.

Where did I say that? I said he has backed up his intent for student loan relief with action even when meeting resistance.

You have a purely aesthetics understanding of politics.

Says the guy who has one comment and knows my outlook on all political matters

Even if he actually did any of that in the way you think he did and I somehow benefitted from those things, I still wouldn’t vote for him

So you’re a liar. I had need of a lawyer once and he told me it was fine if I didn’t remember something and said so. It wasn’t ok if I said something happened one way and it didn’t because then I was a liar and he couldn’t help anymore. You devalue your own words. You’d do well to think on that beyond any assumptions about my feelings on our legal system.

with all the material appeals in the world if it means being complicit with genocide in return for table scraps.

Then don’t claim that it can be done. I’m also interested in what your viable suggestions for better with the tools we have are. That appears to be the difference between you and I. I’m interested in what change can actually happen to improve people’s lives. It looks a whole lot like you want to move immediately into “no bad things”. Letting perfect be the enemy of good.

Fuck you and everyone like you

And that’s a big reason you’ll get exactly nowhere. Name me a person who has enacted major change for their people without working with someone who they disagreed with and I’ll reconsider.

Wake the fuck up.

Likewise

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It is with the electoral college

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How many presidential elections have you participated in where more than two parties received any electoral votes at all?

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They are in a two party system

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They can earn our vote by literally doing ANYTHING that actually materially benefits marginalized people or workers.

You mean like gun safety legislation (biggest in 30 years which unfortunately doesn’t say much), inflation reduction and infrastructure measures, repealing DOMA, or taking steps against systemic racism?

I agree, none of it is enough, and honestly he probably does too. You can guess that based on other things he’s tried to do and been stopped, like student loan relief. That’s a great example because while it was blocked by Republicans, he’s been taking other avenues to get some out there at least. That demonstrates it’s not just demonstrative efforts, which is a popular argument when that kinda thing happens.

But I get it. I’m no big fan of Biden myself. Then again, you didn’t say he’s not doing enough. You said “literally ANYTHING”. It’s right there in your comment and quoted at the top of this one.

Now since we’ve demonstrated he’s done more than literally anything, were you uninformed and will now change your stance, or were you a liar? If you were a liar did you already know that he’d done those things, or are you just not willing to stick to the criteria you yourself established?

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That’s why he and everyone are hugging a strange brown man at the end

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At least he’s not Aryan Jesus here. That’s a sort of progress I guess?

Still terrible

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He never saw the propaganda film!

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Punching up vs punching down.

If the christians making these memes experienced the troubles the LGBTQ+ community does they wouldn’t be posting memes they’d be holed up in their homes with their arsenals instead of walking around showing them off

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Probably because you were in the wrong franchise not to mention the wrong ship

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