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this has been my go-to for paywalls for a lil, v v v useful

https://12ft.io/

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I do think the scandinavian solution of keeping it illegal to purchase but legal to sell works the best for keeping dynamics in the favor of the prostitute.

you think this ‘works the best’ based on what? your direct experiences organizing? Your wide array of SW specific theory? help me understand, where does this knowledge come from?

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Please please please

listen to actual sex workers

read theory by sex workers

research praxis by sex workers

listen to what sex workers say will materially hurt them and what will not

this is basic mass line shit, I am so fucking frustrated

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Like I keep seeing posts all over about not attacking sex workers, but I’m not seeing anything attacking.

when your idea of “not attacking sex workers” includes fostering/accepting rhetoric that continues the stigma against sex workers and that ramps up and supports active legislation that brings material harms, it’s pretty easy to be supportive.

Western leftists gobble up swerf rhetoric the way ‘progressives’ fervently support imperial propaganda.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/beyond-trafficking-and-slavery/white-mans-burden-revisited/

What does a focus on ‘trafficking’ mean materially? it means lots of NGOs, which everyone knows are only in it for the good of humanity, obvi

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/beyond-trafficking-and-slavery/from-brothel-to-sweatshop-questions-on-labour-trafficking-in-camb/

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I’m not on here enough to know the scheduling of the book club, but I would be happy to drop in and add suggestions! hit me up w an @ the next thread!!

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  1. I agree that this is a valid critique of individual sex workers , but it is often mailiciously leveled as a critique of all sex workers actively engaged in SW. This is a mistake. The arguments and rhetoric around sex work is all context-dependent, the terms and tropes that now seem monolithic or set in stone were grown from active material struggle, and separating and viewing those terms and tropes without the accurate historical background usually leads to misinterpretations and misrepresentations.

  2. here’s a podcast w one of the authors (no idea of pod quality), other than that I’m afraid I can’t spend a ton of time finding good summaries. https://radionapier.com/2018/10/25/changing-pages-revolting-prostitutes-the-fight-for-sex-workers-rights-molly-smith/

Additionally, here is an article with imo v solid material analysis as refutation of SWERF politics. might start another flame war tho lmao

ctrl-f for ‘Sections’ to get to argument table of contents

TW descriptions of SA

spoiler

https://medium.com/@katezenjoy/dear-esperanza-5aa7db4d501a

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The one critique I personally would aim at a sex worker (please let me know if this is ) rather than the industry, is when a hugely succesful and influential sex worker presents the industry as wholly good, or their story as the norm.

this is actively under contention in SWer theory circles. The dialectic between the Happy Hooker and the Trafficked Slave is really well explored in Revolting Prostitutes , which, from this thread, it is obvious not many people have read this solid work from SWers engaged in struggle

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Esperanza can call everyone who disagrees with her white petit boug neoliberals, but it doesn’t change the fact that her and her organization push for carceral reforms that will hurt the most marginalized and vulnerable. don’t come at me misrepresenting my position as beginning and ending with “sex work is work,” or acting like I’ve done zero fucking research. maybe if you looked into the people who “attack” Esperanza and her position, you would see that they’re predominantly POC SWers actively engaging in struggle for labor rights.

edit: gonna drop these links for context for anyone else who comes across this, ctrl-f for ‘Sections’ to get to argument table of contents in the first piece

TW SA

spoiler

https://medium.com/@katezenjoy/dear-esperanza-5aa7db4d501a

https://purplerose0666.medium.com/a-timeline-of-af3irms-carceral-discourse-on-sex-work-390aa4b69923

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