Mjpasta710
I’m sorry, but the conversation is still a binary choice, of which both are not the best.
We get very few choices in first past the pole. Until we change it somehow, for the better - We can vote to pick our states electoral votes for the president.
There are only ever going to be 2 options. We vote for one of them. The war machine is what keeps the world economy going. I’m concerned about, and have protested the industrial military complex for as long as I’ve been aware of it. Regarding genocide currently: We have Christian crazy folks convinced Israel has to exist. I protest it, I’m against it. I don’t have as much cash to bribe politicians.
That’s what it comes down to. We get the votes. We don’t get to pick all the policy. I don’t have money to write policy like these super pacs or other orgs.
The argument was why focus on the felonies instead of the war crimes… It’s a binary choice, A. one guy wants to be a dictator with extra war crimes allowed and encouraged and local crimes. Promises further disregard for law in 1000 page writeup. Happens to be a felon, proving the criminal status locally.
B. Other guy has a track of following the pulse and kinda changing opinion to match the room, shows compassion sometimes. with war crimes allowed. Dislikes dictators…
C. We are a world built in and on war. The current human organizations are not ready to allow us to run things peacefully. Nations get paid money when they commit atrocities against one another, not lives restored. We’re actually controlled by banks and the mega rich the world over. Option c is included with either of the above or any new options as it has been since civilization began.
I think that some crimes won’t ever see justice. This world is not fair. Pretending it ever will be, or was, is a fairy tale.
I’m not trying to argue.
I’d say that there is such a thing as a jurisdiction.
Actions committed inside the range of a prosecutor’s jurisdiction are eligible for prosecution by that party.
The argument is war crimes vs a felon.
Why should we care that Trump is a felon? If it was for a series of DUIs, I’d say I wouldn’t care.
The felonies are for election interference in a state that had jurisdiction. Election interference in a race for the same job he’s shooting for again.
The felon is making promises to abuse the military industrial complex to a level that makes war crimes committed so far seem bashful.
If we were to compare the war crimes of the two candidates we still come up in favor of Biden. I don’t have the time to list the atrocities committed by our war machine(s).
Trump was arguably on the side of fascists and has come out in praise of dictators. Trump has said that NATO would be dismantled under his care if they didn’t pay up, like some sort of mob collection scheme. Trump has said that Israel should step up their genocide. Trump seriously mismanaged every military operation that he was involved in. For example: destroying lives and completely upending free and fair rule of law in Afghanistan bungling a withdrawal that left the Islamic religious terrorists in control
There isn’t a court to prosecute our president(s) for any defensive or offensive actions taken. There absolutely should be. Good luck getting any non-compliant nuclear powers to submit.
We’ve (USA) been in a republic since independence. Democracy only for local elections, and then electing representatives. The country has its downfalls. We could use an update to our voting system to represent the people more to boot.
That’s where the comparison between a felon and a non-felon become salient. The one with felonies actively tried to corrupt the voting system more than once. If the people are expected to buy into the system at all they need to be able to have free, and transparent elections.
The courts also decided that corporations are people, and they can contribute to campaigns like people. The courts also decided that political action committees could take massive amounts of cash and spend it as they want with very little oversight.
The system needs to get its stuff together, its true purpose of serving the aristocracy is showing too much.
The people won’t challenge the status quo, the majority with their bread and circuses.
Speaking of ‘democracy’ or other types of government. Democracy can be perverted quickly, the majority eating all minorities rapidly. Democratic republics seem to have corporations entrenched in them currently, serving the corporation not the person. Been called a corporatocracy i believe. Communism hasn’t survived without being corrupted to date.
There should be a solution that actually works, any ideas?
The list of folks guilty of war crimes is myriad and not limited to the presidents. Not trying to nitpick, but… Agree Bush should be dragged along with Saudi Arabian parties responsible through Iraq & Afghanistan. Our 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, etc Oil controlling regime swapping political systems are responsible for so much turmoil in Libya, Afghanistan, and other parts of the middle east - it’s reductive to try and blame a single president or country for this insanity.
I don’t believe you could or should blame Biden singlehandedly for Palestine.
I feel like they have all of the Zionists, British imperialists, and American imperialists and political parties to blame for the last 75+ years to blame in that.
I like the idea of acknowledging this is a wish list. I don’t believe there to be anywhere that will punish or reward them. I feel like that’s another fairy tale.
Yes the ‘paragon of justice’ known as Iran. I’m sure they’ve not committed any war crimes in the last 50 years. I’m sure a current felon didn’t mess up a deal with them. Since the USA messed up their government, they have checks notes laws based on a guy who history records as having married a 9 year old in his adult life. A religion as flawed as every other, and also as worthless.
I like how you took the time to address my argument and reply to any of the core points about why you think I’m wrong. Your summary at the end really speaks volumes to your point and why you think everything I’m writing is incorrect. /s Please make an attempt to reply or do more than personally attack my character.
So much of it isn’t fair.
I want to improve it.
We can’t fix it by simply tearing it down, that leaves us all vulnerable to the fascists and the ones already abusing things to abusing things harder.
We have to fix it like the ship of Theseus, one plank at a time.
It’s hard, messy, and thankless.
I don’t remember signing up to be here, I didn’t see a consent form. Here we are.
That seems like a poor position. Lots of beautiful and amazing things are also incredibly fragile. A single person, with help, can turn any type of country into a dictatorship via coup. Every country is pretty broken by your definition.
Significant portions of American law historically were based on etiquette to preserve order. These need to be codified in a fair manner by independent parties. Our congress has been hijacked in half by a party hell-bent on trying to establish a dictatorship.
American founders argued that the system had to be defended. The phrase is one bad apple spoils the barrel. Corruption can spread and grow in any environment if unchecked.
The powers are supposed to be separated and able to keep each other in balance or in check. That isn’t how it’s been working altogether lately.