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coatimundi [none/use name]

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By saying it’s illegitimate, with their mouths. Not much else to it.

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Why? They speak the same language, live the same lifestyle. Seems to me like the only things that separate them are the remnants of segregation.

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Look, I will stop playing cute: that is always the wrong approach in my opinion. The right approach to these race issues is to have them stay where they’re from and intermingle with the local population. I’m Brazilian, I’m mixed, I believe this, my parents believed this, and it’s silly to me that Americans are so resistant to this. When Stalin came up with the Jewish Autonomous Oblast solution, he was envisioning the Jews dropping their historically retrograde ethnoreligious sense of identification and developing a new one based on land and the Yiddish language like the people of Europe. This was progressive to him in a Marxist sense, but it is impossible for blacks in America because their culture is exactly the same as that of the whites and the only thing that separates them is skin color. They both speak English, live in America and are Christians, everything that separates them is meaningless aestheticism. That’s just my two cents on this question.

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You seem like a guy who knows his stuff. I’m admittedly not very studied on this topic, but I’m just gonna quote a little excerpt from the American Colonization Society’s Wikipedia page that gave me a different impression if you’ll allow me and if you want you can tell me what are the problems with what’s being said.

There were several factors that led to the establishment of the American Colonization Society. The number of free people of color grew steadily following the American Revolutionary War, from 60,000 in 1790 to 300,000 by 1830.[1]:260 Consequently, slaveowners grew increasingly concerned that free blacks might encourage or help their slaves to escape or rebel. In addition, most white Americans saw African Americans as “racially” inferior and felt that “amalgamation,” or integration, of African Americans with white American culture was impossible and undesirable. This reinforced the notion that African Americans should be relocated to somewhere they could live free of prejudice, where they could be citizens.

The African-American community and abolitionist movement overwhelmingly opposed the project. In most cases, African Americans’ families had lived in the United States for generations, and their prevailing sentiment was that they were no more African than white Americans were European. Contrary to stated claims that emigration was voluntary, many African Americans, both free and enslaved, were pressured into emigrating. Indeed, enslavers sometimes manumitted their slaves on condition that the freedmen leave the country immediately.

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I feel like it’s silly to act like there’s any chance of that happening. Black people have only ever gotten progressively more integrated into American society even during Republican governments, and the trend is for that to continue. It seems to me like the observed trend is for mainstream Republicans to adopt a civic nationalist discourse that frames African Americans as an integral part of America and makes symbolic concessions to black identity.

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That’s a good assessment of things and I completely agree.

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I don’t remember exactly what I said, but the thing that made me delete it was that I called people soy lol. Wasn’t trying to pick a fight or anything, but that’s the only word I know that effortlessly describes people like that, and I couldn’t think of a way to express what I wanted to say without using that word.

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