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surreptitiouswalk

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Well looks like we know what Price has got for selling out her people. Now we just gotta find out what Warren Mundine’s pay day is.

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Why is this a single box people have to write in, rather than two boxes with “yes” or “no” that the voter has to tick, cross, fill in to select?

What if people write yes/no in their own language.

Honestly this set up does seem dumb and leaves so much to for error.

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This might be harsh but I have little sympathy for this woman. Remember she was the news anchor at CGTN from 2012 - 2020 and based on Beijing at that time. CGTN is a state owned news (i.e. propaganda) outlet. She was an Australian Citizen prior to taking that position, so surely she should be aware of what she was walking into a conflict between Australian values of freedom and the oppression that the CGTN apparatus represents.

Instead of being an ethical and fearless journalist, she picked money, clout and prestige, betraying the very principles of the country that she’s pleading for sympathy from now.

The fact that the role become a poisoned chalice is entirely predictable. It’s disappointing that our government is now having to expend political capital for her.

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I don’t understand why state liberals who support the voice are not out in droves to rebuff Dutton’s acrobatic positions. At this stage “Liberals for Yes” is an impotent empty shell of a campaign group.

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While I’m a strong supporter of the Voice, I fear it’s going to be defeated. I’ve spoken to a number of people around me and there’s genuine confusion around whether it’s something indigenous Australians want. While the statistics show 80-90% support amongst indigenous Australians for the Voice, when the Coalition trots out Price and Mundine, the public sees a sizable dissenting indigenous faction. Those I’ve spoken to are unsure if they should vote yes solely on the basis that they aren’t sure if indigenous Australians want it, and that’s from my more progressive mates.

Labor has and is botching this campaign in a major way. Their near silence and passive approach to this campaign is failing and it’s shifting normally supportive people into undecideds, let along flipping the undecided voters.

Either Labor and the Greens lift their game fast or this referendum is dead. Polling is suggesting that support has already dipped below 50%.

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I thought voting no was supposed to end the division?

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There was a podcast episode, I think from Democracy Sausage, that talked about how historically referendum no campaigning parties actually do poorly in the subsequent general election since they lean in to absolutely insane arguments during the campaign, which gets them the referendum win, but the loss in the general election. I hope that happens here.

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I’m not claiming any moral high ground, I’m merely staying that she worked for a Chinese media organisation and that essentially makes her part of China’s political apparatus. That makes her at risk of being a political prisoner.

Also as Raltoid said, she’s spent 37/47 years of her life in China. Coupled with her career choice, her government is the Chinese Government, not the Australian government despite what her papers say.

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Let me put it another way, where do you think her loyalties lie before her arrest? China or Australia? If you don’t think that matters, I’d urge you to examine what citizenship means.

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Seems like she was convicted on a technicality, possibly that by the letter of the law she committed the crime, even if it was done under duress and she didn’t benefit from it.

It seems the judge recognised this by not recording a conviction against her and no additional jail time. The bond seems unfair though but maybe it’s to provide assurance that she won’t start the prostitution ring again.

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