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So what’s the differences between chattel slavery? Didn’t the carribain kill so many slaves through hard labor they had to constantly import more since they didn’t expect then to survive and the usa focused on breeding them since they couldn’t get any more from Africa because of a ban of some kind? And what about the house and field slaves? That’s an example of class. And Europe abolished it before slavery of Africans at least became an industry staple in the motherland at least, the colonies it still happened for a while longer. And the ottomans castrated their slaves, well more than others no?
So peasants are tied to land by a pinky promise and chattel slavery is just awful. Well neither exist in modern society, slavery changed with the times, much like how I think property is a fluid concept then so must be slavery. There’s us prison style slavery, sex slavery, wage slavery, there’s the slavery that happens to migrants, and you got a few backwaters that still practice serfdom and chattel slavery that we just don’t know about. Is that right or was that a bad take?
I haven’t had an account that lasts more than a week. I honestly just like challenging what people know and being contrarian. It’s the only way you get what I think is truth out of anybody myself included. That brings me to this hot take, Marx’s view on property is wrong, not abolishing private property mind you, just his definition of what property is. A gun in most cases is private property and that contradicts what he said about the workers shall not be disarmed. I might as well bring up the parallel it has to the second amendment.
I should probably state that the constitution I view it in the same way I view magna carta. Has some good bits but antiquated. The whole a well armed militia thing means to me that citizens should be armed to fight for the government. What Marx says about workers being armed means to me is the same thing but to fight the government, well ruling class. I think he saw it as a means to overthrow the capitalists, not to promote private gun ownership. If this site is gonna be so asinine about meat and cars and houses then it should make up its mind on the gun issue, either the mods should contradict Marx on gun ownership and say guns bad or admit guns are mostly private property and they don’t want to abolish that specific kind of property because they think they can fight a war against the ruling class. Really I don’t know, I’m just here to read shitposts and make people angry. But I see a contradiction and I’m gonna point it out as much as possible until I’m banned.
Tools of the master can’t be used to tear down his house or something. Is a gun not one of the tools? Also let’s add public shared property into the mix with personal and private property. Let’s challenge the Marxist view of property with all the other views of property. Are people property? If property is something inherent and a social construct would that always apply to humans or can we and by extension objects transcend the concept of being property? What is propertyless?
Explain the feudal property situation, I’m under the assumption it was a form of slavery and the serfs collective property. And the slavery that occurred in european colonies with non european slaves was a different more private property focused slavery than what happened in eurasian feudalism. And that under capitalism wage slavery is a thing and it’s the least harsh of the three with a lot of self determination for the workers. But the thing is people are property and the goal of leftism is to liberate ourselves from being property, or at least get a bigger cage. So what difference does it make if there is a mutual benefit from feudalism? Serfs are still property, and to bring it back to guns, are they not property as well?
Look I agree with the fact guns have their place and it’s in the interest of the left to disarm the right so they can’t fight back as easily. But that political power coming out of a gun, what type of property is that gun? Would it be the same type of property depending on the wielder? And if cars are to be phased out eventually, shouldn’t also guns?