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Anyone who says LoK > TLA is a lib

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No disrespect to Bryan and Mike but TLOK’s message can be so liberal that it hurts. Never got that feeling from ATLA.

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The message of overcoming trauma and accepting responsibility for your actions? TLA’s message is literally “even imperialist dictators with superpowers actively committing genocide shouldn’t be killed”.

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I mean just because Aang was staying true to his pacifist roots doesn’t mean that the show universe or its characters wholly agreed with him. That part of the show was less “defeating fascism through the power of friendship” and more Aang confronting the cognitive dissonance of his wishes to remain a pacifist despite knowing that killing Ozai was the right thing to do, which even the show acknowledges is dumb and frustrating in the face of defeating fascism. Not only did the entire Gaang, including Zuko, think the firelord should die (despite their appreciation for pacifistic intention) but Avatar Kyoshi straight up tells Aang to gank Ozai when he was looking for guidance on the Lion Turtle.

Maybe my nostalgia for the show and personal bias might be getting in the way but remember that Aang is 12 years old, and a 12 year old being morally complex with panic and doubt about being told he has to murder someone doesn’t mean the show itself is awash in liberal bullshit IMO.

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excuse LoK for actually having villains with dimensions and actually redeemable qualities that the antanogist learns from too!

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i am sorry but it doesnt get more liberal than “i refuse to kill firelord”

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Toph is a cop and I will never forgive her

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She was already a bougie in TLA, no surprise here.

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