Telegram has voice chats now and Discord is just terrible privacy wise.

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Telegram is used widely in Europe I believe. Good luck getting your friends to switch off discord. It is impossible to get people to take even the most insignificant action for privacy in my experience.

I use signal with the few people that have any opsec awareness.

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wasn’t Signal found to have backdoors recently?

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No? Signal doesn’t need to have backdoors, your phone has plenty of them.

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I didn’t know that, but I am unsuprised. I think the idea of using something like signal is at least prevents blatantly dragnet surveillance by everyone and their uncle. The CIA is unlikely to sell info to your landlord or employer for example.

As someone else suggested, there is little hope of privacy on a third party app. And frankly, so much of the tech itself is directly implicated with the military industrial complex that you are probably fucked anyway. If you have information you want to stay private, you are better off never letting it come in contact with the internet at all.

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all my friends use either fb messenger or instagram dm or whatsapp and it’s all just facebook. I wish teens found it really cringe and embarrassing to let FB spy on you

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FB messenger is just bad. Forget the spying, at it’s base it is just bad featurleas software. Literally ICQ was better software.

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100% agreed, very slow and featureless*. I hate it sm

* like cmon so many of the interesting features like nicknames, polls, events, etc are gone. Also no dark mode on the desktop website (messenger.com) for no reason

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Are you aware of Telegram’s many features? You can use that to entice them.

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Like what? The 1.5gb file transfer seems nice, but I couldn’t find anything else of note.

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There are bots, piracy, unlimited storage, all the stickers and saving messages… some of the features off the top of my head. Plus it’s native to every platform thus resource efficient and well designed.

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for a lot of people, nothing is more enticing than doing nothing :( 90% of my communication with friends is on a FB service (other 10% on snapchat)

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I’m kinda talking out of experience too… I got friends to use Firefox on Android by telling them it supports uBlock Origin and got them to install F-Droid so that they can use NewPipe (a FOSS app that lets you watch Youtube without ads among other things) Also got a couple of them who use Facebook to try Frost out or Barinsta for Instagram… sometimes you don’t even need to mention privacy, you know?

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