Not us Chapos specifically, but I see on reddit and fb a shit ton of actual vitriol spewn back and forth between MLs, ancoms, anarchists and others. To the point where they’re banning and attacking others they deem too tankie or not woke enough. On here it’s pretty dang inclusive. I haven’t seen too much infighting, and who doesn’t love the sarcastic jab every once in awhile?
The stuff that happened in Kenosha has me pretty dang shook, and it’s not over. I have a friend who lives with his brother out in Kenosha, and this was minutes from his house. I live four hours away from Kenosha and I easily can see this going down in any city closeby me.
Right now it feels like the fascists outnumber us. Not only the out-and-out fascists, but there is a LOT of wishy-washy support for civility and police. When it gets down to physical violence and shooting from both sides, people won’t distinguish the leftists from the nazis, they’ll condemn both and want to go back to normal as quickly as possible.
So the only common struggle that we have is with each other. Socialists and anarchists both want to dismantle the capitalist system and achieve egality. We all want to keep this earth going for awhile, (well, except maybe for you posadists), and we all want to defend ourselves and defeat the fascists. We can only have the numbers high enough to do this if we can reach out, not only intersectionally and inter-ideologically, but in real life and in other social media spaces.
I could see this site getting large enough to have the strength to spread propaganda, infiltrate, and reach out. We should organize and develop strategies here (maybe have a separate community for it?) and try to get our ideals out into the world better. Because right now, it doesn’t feel like too many people in the middle are ready to fight with us.
Idk, I just smoked for the first time in a week and this has been on my mind today.
I see nothing but growth occurring. The left’s ability to mobilise and its infrastructure simply continues to grow.
They are resorting to these actions because they are scared. This is an individual actor among a small group of 10 that showed up.
Their mobilisation is terrible and they are forced into these lone-attacker events because they have no other options. They can’t get opposition numbers in the streets with clubs to clash with the left because everyone is content to sit at home and do nothing. They are loud online and incapable of mobilising. From last night’s videos we saw clearly that they can’t be viewed as a monolith either, the militia wasn’t down with the police “pushing protesters towards the militia to deal with them” and that militia guy was content to say that on video to leftists effectively snitching on the police. I don’t think we can even consider these chud militias to be up for a war. Some might be horrendous but… That shows more nuance to me.
We over-simplify the different groups into one cohesive monolith that seems insurmountable when in reality these factions are diverse and complicated. If we put the numbers down on a piece of paper and really assess things week to week month to month… I think the picture looks very different to the fear-posting we do here constantly. Yes, these attackers are terrifying, but this kind of attack is a result of their lack of ability to do anything else at all due to low numbers.
while I 100% agree that fascists are super minor chunk of people what im worried about is the leftist numbers are equally small and we will all become eaten by capitalist BS. Thanks fam for allowing me to suspend those anxieties for at least a bit
We’re all in a permanent state of being eaten by capitalist BS but the reality of the strength of the fascists shouldn’t be confused with that of the state or neoliberals.
What we SHOULD be concerned about is a real, actual, competent fascist in power. Trump is not that though.
Too often the left is conflating the forces of the state, the idea that Trump is an actual real fascist of the palingenetic ultranationalist variety, the neoliberals, and the actual fascists in the country as all the same thing. They’re not. They’re separate things and should be regarded as such. Sometimes they’re aligned against the left, but, they are also aligned against one another in many ways.
We are doing ourselves a disservice by speaking of these various forces as one monolithic enemy. They are all enemies, but they are not the same force and the dangerous-fascists are actually far smaller than we are in mobilised numbers. I strongly believe that we need pushback against this view of all our opponents as one entity.
