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Really? Are there that many champagne socialists on this site?

That’s actually kinda disappointing to me because I’ve been working since i was 16 as well. Grew up lower/middle class (lol “class”)

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I don’t really think there are. The jobs data for most countries says a lot of the poorest are among the millions who fall out of the workforce entirely for long periods of time due to whatever reason. A lot of them are still workers by the marxist definition, fulfilling different functions to subsist in a sort of grey area outside the normal jobs market. The people in this category are usually worse off than the people who’ve had regular employment since they were teens. Think Brace or Christman if the pod never took off.

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Brace unionized his brewery though, man’s a hero. First craft brewers union in America and news of it reached all the way out East to the brewery I was at before the pandemic. Sucks they laid everyone off before we could get it going here.

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Yeah, this is also basically Bernie’s story and the employment gaps are pretty common if you look through the histories of leftist figures. I guess I just don’t want people here to feel bad if this is them or like they aren’t really part of the left.

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Growing up in middle/upper middle class doesn’t make you a “champagne socialist”. You can be a socialist from a well-off family. You aren’t a “champagne socialist” until you’re an upper middle class that only gets into socialism for the aesthetic.

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Champagne socialism is when you make more than minimum wage, and the closer to minimum wage the more champagney you are

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