The philosophy of “Kill the terrorists and their families” is still fucked up even when leftists do it people.

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Imagine being such a self-centered piece of shit that you’d be willing to see the revolution fail so that your morality boner isn’t deflated.

You act as if people here can’t wait to smash babies against the wall or something. Literally nobody is saying that. We are saying that revolution isn’t a moral act. Its an act of violence by one class to completely dominate another. Anything less and it will fail and everyone you care about will be tortured and killed. Forces of reaction are always willing to use extreme violence and committing to taking the high road from the jump is basically admitting defeat before you even start.

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I’m a piece of shit for not wanting to needlessly kill people.

Alright bro, whatever you say lol.

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Who is deciding who is “necessary” to kill? Who is deciding what is a necessary scenario? Do you think the current order is not objectively predicated on mass slaughter and exploitation? I mean I know you don’t experience it but it does exist, and allowing the current system to continue is tacitly condoning said mass slaughter. Would you kill a hostage if it stopped the genocide in Yemen? How about two? How many is too many?

Instead of downvoting, answer my question or refute my point cowards.

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Sure, I’ll take you up on that. Your notion that revolution has nothing to do with morality is completely false, and I think you recognize that yourself. You mention a number of justifications for violence in your other posts, including:

  • Stopping genocide
  • Destroying systems of mass violence and oppression
  • Avoiding postwar repression

These are all essentially moral goals. You view them as desirable because you (like most people I would hope) possess a set of morals that objects to things like genocide and exploitation. Your argument is that these things are so horrible that they warrant otherwise reprehensible actions to destroy them. Unless, of course, you think that killing and violence is just based, and fuck things like improving the lives of human beings. Then you’re just a monster, and there’s no point in try to deal with you at all.

Pretending that class struggle exists only for its own sake is both wrong and deceitful. Revolution IS a “moral decision.” If you want to argue about what our values entail in terms of action, fine. But don’t pretend that our values have no role to play at all. Marx was wrong as shit when he said that we will make no excuses for the terror. If we CANNOT find justification for terror, then we are lost.

edit: typo

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Because it’s literally killing babies. Getting overenthusiastic about a political candidate is drastically different from getting overenthusiastic about killing people. We have a natural aversion to the latter.

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