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Good point about the two famines in the USSR. That was my mistake. The second famine, which was in Ukraine, is a really complex topic. What’s clear about is that the Soviet efforts to mitigate the famine underestimated the scale of the situation, which was exacerbated by wealthy peasants destroying crops in protest to wealth redistribution efforts. Either way, the same fact applies: the USSR lasted for another 60 years without any food issues at all.

Good question about the economy. What we should remember about the economy is that it follows the rules we set for it. You’re right that under a capitalist economy, things wouldn’t function if we prioritized feeding the needy over generating profit. Your point is actually one of the strongest condemnations of capitalism I can think of.

As far as the pilgrims go, I would need time to look over that paper and get back to you. I don’t want to rush to answer something I’m not familiar with. What I can confidently say is that we are in a fundamentally different position today than the early settler pilgrims were four hundred years ago. We have the technology and organizational capacity to do they things they never could have dreamed of.

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Well it’s a two step process, right? I did the first step: capitalism bad. Next step is communism good. I’d point again to China’s food security.

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😬 It’s not particularly cool to blame the peasants for their own starvation. Some kulaks butchered heads of their cattle so they could at least get some benefit from them, but the effect on the extent of the famine was negligible. It’s a very convenient scapegoat for a communist government, blaming “wealthy peasants” behaving selfishly and wastefully, but that itself should be a cause for scepticism.

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Oh, I’m definitely not blaming the majority of the peasants! And I’m not absolving the Soviet government of blame. There was real mishandling of the famine. What I’m saying is that wealthy peasants had turned themselves into a landlord class and intentionally exacerbated the famine via destruction of cattle and crops well beyond normal numbers because their class position was threatened by the Soviet government. The majority of peasants, who were poor, suffered due to this. Like any famine, there is a confluence of factors.

  1. Environmental conditions

  2. Insufficient government response

  3. Landlord sabotage of food stores

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Drop the word “peasants”. It’s unnecessary and detracts from your argument in practice.

Very few actually know about the exact socioeconomic conditions of the Ukraine at the time beyond as a meme, and if they do, they’re either one of us or an experienced propagandist whom engaging would be a waste of time.

I’d suggest using the phrasing “the wealthy destroyed their own crops to prevent the populace at large from benefiting from the wealth others labored to bring them.” and “they preferred their own countrymen starve to not having social and economic power over them.”

Mentioning mismanagement in handling the fallout is a good idea. Criticize something (mildly) first if you want someone to open their mind to the positives of that thing.

Also, it wouldn’t hurt to split “environmental factors” by enumerating the tangible causes. I always try to mention disease and drought separately.

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