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Everyone knows that historical materialism is dialectical, and the more you rip things down and pretend like they never existed the more dialecticaller it is :theory-gary:

If China and Russia can make a (relatively) clean break from feudalism, why can we not do the same for neoliberalism?

It’s silly to imagine because it’s silly to do. Will Americans need to accept fewer comforts and treats? Yes. But you don’t have tell them until after it’s set in motion. For now, it’s the kind of conversation you have with people who are ready for it.

They couldn’t, they both understood that they needed to develop their productive forces through state capitalism :lenin-cat:

in this context, state capitalism is a clean break from feudalism

it’s a new organizational structure that replaced the old one

Ah yes the clean break that all of those dialectical thinkers were doing :hegel:

sorry, I think “clean break” was a bad choice of words on my part, I meant that a post-revolution organization doesn’t have to look like the government/institutions it’s replacing.

Sure, but in the context of the original point - even if we did replace the bourgeois institutions of America with proletarian ones, it would still have significant American characteristics, because it would have to grow out of those bourgeois institutions first. Look at the way that the American bourgeoisie (mostly) carried over English monarchic common law, for example, there would still be things like that. That’s what OP was asking for, and it’s why /u/pppp1000 's comment is so nonsensical.

Russia in the early 1900s and China in 1950s didn’t have this much control over the world through their military like what the US has now.

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