I go back and forth a lot between thinking people are losing faith in U.S. systems in record time, and thinking that I’m making up libidinal fantasies and overestimating the speed or extent of that loss of faith.

So what do you all think?

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Unfortunately history indicates that regardless of state, revolution will not occur in the imperial core.

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Oh I never really doubted that. At least not that revolution wouldn’t start in the core. I was more wondering if, when the U.S.’ ability to crush labor movements and revolutions abroad fully dissipates, and the American state’s international domination dissipates accodingly, if people will want to try and make something new, or limp along with whatever the U.S. becomes after its fall from hegemony.

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The american government will attempt to destroy anything it can’t have, most likely. I really have a hard time believing that the us will finally be disentangled from the rest of the world before the rest of the world is knocking on our door.

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I’d like to think it won’t take a hot war to dislodge the U.S. empire, but if it took WW1 and WW2 to kill the old European colonial empires… well, anyway, I’d like to think it won’t come to that.

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on the other hand the USA does have the most developed productive forces in the world. Though now they are all weird service jobs instead of the traditional manufacturing communists thought would be the basis of the proletariat. The consequences of this for revolution are unknown, you might thick it means we are doomed but these jobs are also a lot more fragile to economic distruption. The wheel of history turns…

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Is it really a revolution if its welcomed with open arms?

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