Hexbear

8 points

3 years ago

Question: is Boric being depicted by the media over there as an evil bloodthirsty communist aspiring dictator?

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9 points

3 years ago

Eeeeeexactly. Kast is the candidate of “Freedom”. But there is of course also a liberal/leftist media which doesnt do that but that is the minority and the right-wing/far-right still sets the narrative and conversation all around. For example after the Nicaraguan election(which were not really democratic) a declaration from some communists came out supporting ortega basically and that was then a major point in the debates and media up until the election. Also Polls (which were pretty accurate we have to admit now) found that people on average rate Boric almost as far-left as Artes (who is a literal revolutionary communist/maoist who openly supports North Korea and got 1,5%)

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9 points

3 years ago

So in other words, his throwing Nicaragua and Venezuela under the bus was about as effective from a “not being smeared as an evil communist caricature by the opposition” perspective as the Biden campaign?

the Nicaraguan election(which were not really democratic)

Come on, man.

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6 points

3 years ago

Come on do you seriously believe the outcome of the Nicaraguan election was not already predetermined? Just the sheer amount of possible candidates that were arrested/detained, like come on. You can still think ortega is still “the best” choice out of the candidates and massively preferable to the US ravaging nicaragua (which i do, even though theres a lot i dont like about modern day ortega)

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6 points

3 years ago

Come on do you seriously believe the outcome of the Nicaraguan election was not already predetermined?

Yes. The FSLN is popular for good reason, and the only sense in which the outcome was predetermined was that they were obviously going to win.

The fact that half the opposition was plotting with the United States to illegally undermine or overthrow them just points to how fraudulent they (the opposition) are as a political force. But there was still an opposition that was fully capable of campaigning, and with the backing of private capital giving them the same undemocratic advantages that every other bourgeois party in the world gets. They just got owned, owing in large part to the fact that so many of them were paid stooges of the Amerikkkan empire who overplayed their hands and got caught (and arrested like every threat to the state in every country would be, except in Venezuela I guess). I’m not really interested in entertaining the imperialist narrative that every country where socialist forces are popular and in power is de facto “authoritarian”, corrupt, undemocratic, etc., and I flat-out disbelieve anything that the imperialist media says about these countries as a default, so.

I mean there’s a million other angles to criticize this narrative from, from the unbelievable atrocities the forces behind the opposition committed for decades (which should make everyone highly suspicious of them because they are very obviously up to no good and very obviously don’t give a shit about anything like democracy), to the fact that the Sandinistas have lost elections before and conceded, but my overarching point is that the fact that there are two opposing factions saying opposite things does not mean that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. We don’t have to half-believe that the reactionaries are right.

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7 points

3 years ago

We laugh now today about “Chilezuela” but the truth (sadly) is, it worked (very, very well in fact)

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4 points

3 years ago

Well yeah. It worked despite his attempt to distance himself from it. So he might as well lean in like the communists did.

So either he made an unsound and unnecessary compromise or he’s just a radlib who genuinely hates those left-wing, anti-imperialist Latin American governments (sad!).

Still hope he wins tho.

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6 points

3 years ago

“Chilezuela” was basically the campaign motto of the Pinera campaign in 2017 (literally the word itself as well as the whole narrative behind it completely drove that campaign) and it brought the greatest victory of the right-wing ever, since the return of democracy. I dont know how exactly to put this, but people really, really dont want (fear?) to be anything like Venezuela

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5 points

3 years ago

Yeah, I get that. What I’m saying is that anyone on the left will be smeared like that anyway. And it seems like he has been.

I dunno, maybe leaning into it wouldn’t be optimal, but trying to run away from it also seems futile. And in the process the support any left-wing government would need gets undermined. Even Boric is gonna have a target on his back if he wins, and denouncing the people who could help stave off the imperialists’ attacks seems like a bad idea in the long-run. To say nothing of how they deserve support, too.

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