Hexbear

7 points

3 years ago

We laugh now today about “Chilezuela” but the truth (sadly) is, it worked (very, very well in fact)

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EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]@hexbear.net

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4 points

3 years ago

Well yeah. It worked despite his attempt to distance himself from it. So he might as well lean in like the communists did.

So either he made an unsound and unnecessary compromise or he’s just a radlib who genuinely hates those left-wing, anti-imperialist Latin American governments (sad!).

Still hope he wins tho.

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6 points

3 years ago

“Chilezuela” was basically the campaign motto of the Pinera campaign in 2017 (literally the word itself as well as the whole narrative behind it completely drove that campaign) and it brought the greatest victory of the right-wing ever, since the return of democracy. I dont know how exactly to put this, but people really, really dont want (fear?) to be anything like Venezuela

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EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]@hexbear.net

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5 points

3 years ago

Yeah, I get that. What I’m saying is that anyone on the left will be smeared like that anyway. And it seems like he has been.

I dunno, maybe leaning into it wouldn’t be optimal, but trying to run away from it also seems futile. And in the process the support any left-wing government would need gets undermined. Even Boric is gonna have a target on his back if he wins, and denouncing the people who could help stave off the imperialists’ attacks seems like a bad idea in the long-run. To say nothing of how they deserve support, too.

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5 points

3 years ago

True, but i think (in the debates at least) Boric handled it reasonably well (considering his position, where he cant alienate centrist voters), didnt “evade” the question and wasnt constantly on the defensive about it but clearly stated his position but brought it back to Chile (‘he condemns human rights Violations everywhere including Chile’). But i think we saw a absolute prime example of what happens to a candidate when he “crosses the line” with Jadue (even in a primary of only leftists). I dont want to see Borics campaign sink in the same fashion as well

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EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]@hexbear.net

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4 points

3 years ago

But i think we saw a absolute prime example of what happens to a candidate when he “crosses the line” with Jadue (even in a primary of only leftists).

I’m curious about the voters’ reasoning here. How much of it do you think was that they themselves hate/fear Venezuela and how much of it was an attempt at tactical voting, i.e. thinking about how it would affect the candidate’s “electability”?

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4 points

3 years ago

Good question of course but i dont think the “electability” factor was decisive (especially considering how massive and immediate the upset was) since 1. terminally polsci-brained political “triangulation” to find the most “electable” candidate is not nearly as big as it is in the US (and its not in the national discussion maybe only a few select very involved circles) 2. Every poll that came out before people voted showed jadue being 2x or 3x bigger than Boric (so everything suggested Jadue was the more electable candidate). 3. In a big poll people were asked to put why he lost in one word and this was the result.

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