Comment by Owl [he/him]@hexbear.net on The Death of Hope (1991)

What!? More stuff happened in 70 years than in 50 years!?

Summing the entire computing revolution - from making central planning finally possible, to being able to solve previously intractable planning problems, to the early internet, to global access to a huge variety of information - as “internet (a thing that is only a net negative” - makes the last 50 years sound like nothing happened in technology?

Focusing on the doomed Soviet Union and ignoring the still thriving communist China makes it look like communism is dead?

No shit.

Go outside and have a picnic you absurd doomer.

ignoring the still thriving communist China

I don’t live there and they aint coming here so why should I?

You don’t live in 1900 and it aint coming here so why do you care what happened back then?

Because the point of comparison is that things are stagnant or trending downwards compared to the past. I don’t live in China and never will so idgaf how peachy shit supposedly is over there

the point of comparison is that things are stagnant or trending downwards compared to the past.

But the comparison is a load of steaming shit that you made up and cherrypicked because you feel like the world is going to shit and want a reason to wallow in it. You can’t blame everything wrong on a far away, nebulous state of decay while rejecting anything that’s going well because it’s far away and nebulous.

You should go address whatever is actually upsetting you, rather than seeking out reasons why it’s okay to mope. Or if something bad has happened to you recently, go actually be sad! Indulge it, listen to emo music, write bad poetry - living out your sadness is good for you. Inventing a world to live in that’s constructed out of that sadness is not.

And if you don’t know what to do - go have a picnic, then go join an organization that actually does something.

It’s just kind of hard to feel good about china’s progress when all the western countries are still in the grip of neoliberalism and trending towards conservative nationalism/fascism.

but dude no its all good this other country that you will never go to maybe is on the right track pls ignore the fabric of society rapidly fraying away

:internet-delenda-est: imagine feeling empathetic for the exploited workers in the global south couldn’t be me lol

The USA and the colonizer bloc is eternally beaned, we been knowing it. Revolutionary defeatism is the only viable strategy aside from organizing workplaces and protests under capitalism. Doesn’t mean that the communist bloc growing in size, that would ACCELERATE the downfall of global capitalism and the American hegemony, should be ignored.

Revolution will never happen in the hegemon, we’re inundated with treats. You can look and surrender to doomerism and do nothing, or you can accept and contribute to the global communist frontier

Bawwww its impossible to make shit better here so don’t try

That’s even more doomer than me lol

aside from organizing workplaces and protests under capitalism

impossible to make shit better here

:puzzled:

it’s not all or nothing. We can fight against the inside machine while acknowledging that socialism won’t come to a fuckin imperial hegemon before those oppressed under the heel of it, which is just common sense. The US as an existing state entity and the colonial heirs as existing state entities are eternally beaned and will not change without the treats being cut off, and even then. Doesn’t mean never, but the USA will be on the cliffs of its rotted infrastructure as an empire before socialism comes to it.

In praxis there isn’t really a huge difference.

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