to be fair to Ryan, this is part of a continuing conversation through quote tweets is having. it’s still a bad take, but it’s not quite as bad thinking it’s out of the blue. i don’t know how he ends up at this awful tweet – what he was talking about to begin with was that China’s domestic surveillance state being dystopian.
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1306953026574352385
You can oppose all forms of surveillance, while also acknowledging that the Chinese government is using that power to discipline its population at a scale that is magnitudes beyond what happens here. A dissident there is taking graver risks than one here.
imo he should have stopped tweeting at that one. i am not sure if he is right or wrong, but at least he hasn’t lost grasp of a point. Ryan really out of his wheelhouse here. he should stick to talking about left electoralism. i consider myself a Grim fan, but this one is a real doozy.
Remember that the intercept is full of chomskyites whose top priority is hardly different than that of the ACLU.
Also a political dissident is taking greater risks in China than they are in the US. You can say whatever the fuck you want in the US, and it’s why crazy shit like qanon happens, China would ban that shit asap.
yeah you can say whatever the fuck you want in the US thats why famously the us government has never killed and oppressed dissidents and waged internal war against anyone that dare garner any actual opposition to the status quo lol
The US suppress political dissidents that materially challenge power from time to time for sure. But you’re being willfully ignorant by arguing that China doesn’t do this shit far more.
There are avenues you can decent on things in China, but you can’t just spread lies like you can in the US.
