It’s really just a progression of finding out how fucking evil the ruling class is right? Like learning how many people the US government has fucking murdered for bananas and shit really pushed me from rad lib soc dem to ML. Or is there more to it than that? Because if it is that simple we need a good way to agitate that better that doesn’t require a fuck ton of extracurricular reading.

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It also requires rigorous work to purge imperialist brainworms. Domestically they might be great but if they still tow the government line on places like China, Venezuela, even Iran and Russia, then they need more education.

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Yeah thats what I mean, though I would argue that most radlibs/socdems don’t really blame 5he US govt for all the evil shit it does domestically. So often I get the feeling that even with things like slavery they don’t blame that on the government as ann organ of the ruling class. It’s like “a tragic mistake” or “We fixed it so it doesn’t count.” It’s like they have “the bumbling empire” trope both within and outside the US cemented in the core of their brain.

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I have a hard time when I try to tell people that the media and government are in cahoots with the billionaires.

It like people don’t understand what grants people power these days or what power means.

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Liberals switch between tutting at leftists for supposedly not caring about minorities and psychopathic bloodthirsty imperialism so fast it gives me fucking whiplash.

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