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we all said

Well I never

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The real lesson there isn’t that people were wrong for saying Joe was left-adjacent (i mean, that is a lesson just not the broader lesson that everyone needs to take). It was thinking that Bernie going on any media program whatsoever mattered at all to the outcome. Now that history has played out, it doesn’t matter that he went on Rogan. It didn’t matter that he went on Fox News. None of it helped and none of it hurt because we got the same outcome. It’s not like he would have won if he went on fewer shows.

This is a lesson we need to take with us going forward and stop freaking out over media appearances all together. It’s not what makes things happen.

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I don’t think that I agree that you can reduce everything to singular outcomes. This would be like saying the Paris commune didn’t matter because it failed, it did inspire and provide lessons for future revolutions. Bernie failed but the left is much stronger for his efforts.

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I thought the message was that Rogan had a lot of reach and Bernie should use that, since Rogan’s a yes-man? Like, there was concern trolling calling Bernie racist by assoc. and the sub was rightfully like ‘no that’s dumb.’

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I still believe material politics could move a lot of his audience past their culture war hangups and bring them left. Talking about left politics on his show probably won’t compete very well with his circus, but I really think if a high minimum wage and a right to healthcare and housing was on the line, not too many people would keep their commitments to insane conspiracy bullshit.

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I was like “Joe rogan called women who don’t want kids worse than dogs” and everyone shrugged

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some people did, but the consensus seemed to be a lot more reluctant and cautious. turns out the people not willing to blindly accept a bernie endorsement as a complete chud redemption arc had the correct take.

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Goofus takeaway

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