What did I do to deserve this(hexbear.net)

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voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]@hexbear.net

12 points

3 years ago

“Fascist murderer” is fine. Don’t let the state define criminality for us. Every U.S. president is also a war criminal, despite literally none of them ever being convicted of anything.

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ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net

4 points

3 years ago

I 100% agree, but the court likely won’t when this little piece of shit fascist sues people for calling him a murderer

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voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]@hexbear.net

1 point

3 years ago

I mean, people are called murderers all the time. It’s possible the injustice system will go off the deep end, but IMO it’s pretty unlikely. Heck, I suspect police departments and cop “unions” would be suing left and right over that shit if it were going to stick.

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ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net

2 points

3 years ago

I said people, I more meant news outlets

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voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]@hexbear.net

3 points

3 years ago

Not a lawyer, but I even suspect that there’s a burden-of-proof issue with this. In defamation, you basically have to prove that someone lied (i.e. prove that Rittenhouse is not a murderer, in this case). A criminal “not guilty” verdict isn’t proof that someone didn’t commit murder; it is a statement that it was not definitively proven (“beyond a reasonable doubt”) that they ARE a murderer. It is only criminal court where you are “innocent until proven guilty”. Hence why wrongful death lawsuits (where it’s just “preponderance of evidence” shit) can succeed even if criminal murder charges fail.

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