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Putin: “we uhh must invade Ukraine because uhh blood and soil”

Online leftists: “omg so anti-imperialist, a $1.5T economy with 1M active duty soldiers and the largest nuclear stockpile in the world has no agency whatsoever, everything they do is orchestrated by the US but also I support them for some reason!”

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Hexbears: “omg so fascist, this doesn’t comport at all with my western leftist aesthetics, how am I supposed to feel good about awarding my meaningless critical support if it’s not either AES or a weak country that’s already been hopelessly immiserated by its enemies?”

I am seeing that too, a growing number of people just want a good both sides take and leave it at that. I can understand but it is also not realy going to achieve anything novel because both sides being bad is already quite obvious.

Nobody is questioning that Putin is a capitalist pig, but the real conundrum of what to actually do when the US leaves you no choice is just heading straight up against the massive wall that is western leftists idealism, oh and there is a lot of idealism out there it turns out.

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God am I glad to be skeptical of claims of AES being relevant to China. It makes it so much easier to not fall for false-choices that ask us to make fools of ourselves critically supporting people who would butcher us all given a chance.

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China, famously invading and butchering everybody

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Other online leftists: “It’s totally okay that the Nazis in Ukraine were butchering ethnic minorities with US Backing, what’s important is Russia bad”

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