we’re accelerating.
Vietnam has one of the worst track record in SE asia for human rights and torture.
I am guessing none of you have actually been to these countries.
This group is funded mostly by US-based NGOs that are almost definitely affiliated with the CIA.
You should leave. This isn’t a place for liberals or right wingers
I just listed the first thing I found in Google.
Vietnam is not a socialist paradise, and it engages in terrible acts of violence against its own people.
The fact that you think we are looking for paradise or utopia tells me you’re a fucking liberal and should fuck off back to reddit or Twitter
Torture is awful and should be abolished everywhere. What better place to start than at home? After all, isn’t our efforts best spent using our ‘democratic systems’ to see our desire to end torture realized? The U.S. doesn’t meet any of the published benchmarks for Vietnam in that link lmao:
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Prohibition of the practices of holding prisoners and detainees for prolonged periods in incommunicado detention and solitary confinement, which not only facilitate and perpetuate the torture of detainees, but in some circumstances can themselves amount to torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatmen . [U.S. has more people in solitary per capita than Vietnam]
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Commitment to a timetable by which the government will authorize independent monitoring of all prisons, re-education centers, and other places of detention in Vietnam by both international and domestic monitoring bodies to investigate allegations of physical abuse and torture of prisoners and detainees and enforce the absolute prohibition on such abuses by police, security officials, prison and detention center staff, and other detainees. [We do not have oversight or follow- up for reported torture/ abuse in our prisons]
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Acceptance of country visits by the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, the UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention and officials of the International Labor Organization, with unrestricted access to prisons, detention centers, psychiatric institutions, re-education camps, drug detention centers, jails, police lock-ups, and other places of detention. [No one gets unrestricted access to prisons in the U.S. for investigative/ oversight purposes]
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Ratification and implementation of Work Convention No. 105 (Abolition of Forced Labor), which prohibits forced or compulsory labor of prisoners convicted of political offenses or because of racial, social, national, or religious discrimination; and publication of a list of all forms of work in which prisoners and detainees are involved (just lol)
As someone who hates torture, I can’t imagine spending any time lecturing Americans about the happenings in a SE Asian country i don’t even share a language with, when there is so so so much torture right here at home
