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Electoral failure -> the capitalists fear us and want to stop us -> electoral failure -> the capitalists fear us and want to stop us

Electoralism in the core ain’t gonna work and I’m tired of pretending it will

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Bottom up organizing by forming worker owned co-ops is the exact opposite of electoralism. I’m not saying that leftists should try to find another Corbyn, I’m saying that we should abandon the thought that we can take over bourgeois state institutions. I think that bottom up vs top down is explicitly against electoralism and I really am not understanding how that could be interpreted any other way.

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Unions are better than worker owned co-ops because they are directly antagonistic towards the class struggle.

Look, much love to like, teachers’ and nurses’ unions, but the SEIU local that represented me at Albertsons was not “directly antagonistic.” Here’s what they did: take union dues and use them to lobby the dems for free childcare. When I asked them to enforce chemical labeling rules the rep was suddenly out of the office. We don’t just need unions, we need militant orgs within the unions.

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I’m saying that we should abandon the thought that we can take over bourgeois state institutions.

By elections and reform sure, but when did communists pretend or believed otherwise?. This is a 100 year old realization. Its just that you think that the central focus of the approach onn grassroots organizating should be co-op based as an socio-economic and political unit which isnt a new thing either . It was just never was that and rejected theoreticaly and practicaly at every revolutionary turn. And for good reasons imo. It cant be

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Can’t wait for my technological western state with a fully armed police force to slide back into feudalism so I can follow the lead of Lenin and Mao to enact a successful revolution.

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:back-to-me-shining:

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