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But it will not radicalize

Obviously not, that is our job

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Yes but it does the exact opposite: it mollifies and makes our job harder, increases the amount of deprogramming we have to do.

Example: have you ever had the joy of talking to libs about his China episodes? Their xenophobia has only gotten worse. Folks like Oliver launder right wing think tanks / talking points under the guide of “progressive” politics that make it much more difficult to play on the us vs. them dichotomy inherent to lib brain (like pointing out that maybe they should read Kissinger Fellows with a grain of salt). Oliver is with them and peddles in whitewashed reaction, so they absorb and defend it.

Or, shorter version: he’s a different instantiation of V*ush.

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There is an alt-right pipeline that depends on a combination of acceptable liberal talking points, thinking we can just go 0-100 with these people is going to hurt us.

Again it is OUR RESPONSIBILITY to make sure those people stay on the right path.

Also conflating him with a literal slur dropping pedophile isn’t even worth engaging with.

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John Oliver actively creating and supporting reactionary brain worms is not part of the lib to left pipeline. It is the exact opposite. It produces reaction. Oliver watchers are the kids calling you tankie for not licking Biden’s boot and they are not easier to reach because he provided them with a liberal rationalization for solving systemic problems by voting harder, using a silly word with their other liberal friends, or equating socialism and government spending.

Nobody said anything about going from 0-100. There are so many options that aren’t actively promoting reactionary positions, I don’t even want to start enumerating them. I’ll just say that the duplicitous socialists that think they’re pipelining by using Bernie Sanders for everything are at least nearly coherent.

I don’t know why you’re repeating yourself about what our responsibility is. It seems condescending.

Oliver’s show is another instantiation of V*ush in that it redirects a recognition of systemic oppression and failures of capitalism into status quo liberalism and the laundering of reactionary positions while getting treated like a left voice. Oliver is part of the recapture of liberals who could otherwise be pipelined.

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Post videos you genuinely enjoy and want to share, duh. Celebrate the diversity of interests shared by chapochatters by posting a deep dive into Venetian kelp farming, I dunno. Also media criticism, bite-sized versions of left-wing theory, all the stuff you expected. But I am curious about that kelp farming thing now that you mentioned it.

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