When you’re this into it, it’s a casino. Especially this last couple years in the pandemic fed bubble market where things were just totally disconnected (more than usual) from anything real and you could go from 20 thousand dollars to millionaire and retire (or visa versa). People aren’t value trading or long term trading when they talk about getting a mortgage and skipping meals, they’re day trading and trying to time the market before the next mortgage payment or bill comes in and they routinely get fucked.