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The one on the meme is clearly not a “normal lonely young man” tho. It’s a literal incel.

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I feel like the question needs to be asked; exactly how normal are “lonely young men” these days, anyways?

Even so… The main difference in being understood to be the latter over the former does seem to boil down to how much one believes their isolation to be a social problem, rather than the place they simply naturally ought to inhabit.

At least, that’s what I see.

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No, the main difference is whether you see solely others as the reason of you being lonely or not. People who like to be alone won’t ask for a “young beautiful virgin”.

Not getting laid is not a social problem. It’s not even a problem in the first place.

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No, the main difference is whether you see solely others as the reason of you being lonely or not.

How would one go about ascribing their own social isolation to social causes in a way that is legitimate to you? Or is it just that you reject out of hand that there are any illegitimate causes for the social isolation of young men?

People who like to be alone won’t ask for a “young beautiful virgin”.

I mean, I also wouldn’t.

Not getting laid is not a social problem. It’s not even a problem in the first place.

I have to say that I think that this point is kind of an irreconcilable disagreement. I think that if a given set of people cannot engage in basic human social activities, then that’s both a problem & potentially a social one.

Like most, I think this is primarily a problem rooted in the class system though.

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Not getting laid is not a social problem. It’s not even a problem in the first place.

I mean, this is what capitalists/reactionaries/bootlickers say about all sorts of things, like representation in media, realistic beauty standards, healthcare, gainful/meaningful employment, etc.

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