Everyone has hot takes, let this thread be your safe space to unleash fire on us.
Oh boy, please forgive me for the struggle sessions I may cause as I pursue a better world.
Labeling your leftist ideology after previous revolutionary leaders(ML, stalinists, maoists, trots, whatever the fuck) is a waste of time and divides us further. If a leftist ideology leads some form of revolution in the future it will likely be an amalgamation of selected old principles and new ideas that will generate a new label (x-ists) that will be more relevant. Just call yourself a communist or an anarchist (or an-com), and know what you believe in.
I don’t give a fuck about what dead fucking historical fuckers did or did not do. No discussion about the Holodomor will lead to a consensus. We live in a post-truth society and the bourgeois can afford as many scholars/think-tanks as they want. Arguing about previous communists regimes on the internet is not the best use of your time. Your 8 paragraph primary source cited essay will never convince a chud and wastes your time and energy. If someone wants to debate you about the history of some communist nation or character tell them to pound sand and argue the disparities of current material conditions. I’m not telling you to not study history, but stop having the same arguments over and over.
Everyone on this site is like “Lol don’t vote for Biden it’s just as bad as Trump”. Both of these guys may not let us vote in the future or round us up in camps but one of them is already showing signs of authoritarianism. American leftists aren’t ready for a revolution. We have no vanguard, and 80% of your local DSA doesn’t even own a gun. I don’t want to vote for Biden either because I’m sick of the DNC bullshit of “lesser of two evils”, but honestly a biden victory buys us more time. If you live in a deeply red state, fuck it vote PSL or Green (I’m in that boat and will cast my vote in your honor for La Riva), but honestly harm reduction is a practical philosophy that we should consider. We are not ready for fight, and the absolute best case scenario is a PMC-led neoliberal victory that will cost thousands of lives and induce incredible suffering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Ukt9LrvhQ
Edit: The ensuing struggle session from this post proving my first point would be funny if it wasn’t so goddamn sad for our cause
American leftists aren’t ready for a revolution. We have no vanguard, and 80% of your local DSA doesn’t even own a gun. I don’t want to vote for Biden either because I’m sick of the DNC bullshit of “lesser of two evils”, but honestly a biden victory buys us more time.
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Oh look the Bidenist-Revisionist is here to tell us that Marxism-Leninism is obsolete despite 100% of historical successful revolutions and 100% of existing Socialist States being Marxist-Leninist
Responding like this to a good faith post in a hot take thread is real wrecker shit
Only libs, left coms and revisionists are allowed hot takes. Tankie hot takes are banned. Left unity
-You
I don’t think that is a fair summary of my points, nor what I said.
The science is solid, I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t. Trotsky and Lenin literally fought a revolution together. Modern leftists who use their titles can’t sit in the same room. As long as this is the case, we can’t win.
You made me create an account to respond to this. I’m very tired of online MLs holding a monopoly on the claim of “all historical successful revolutions are ML revolutions.” Not only is this claim just untrue, the one that follows it is laughably sad, because ML is also responsible for 100% of degenerated worker states. The October Revolution wasnt ML so dont even pretend you get that one either. Sandals is correct with this take. ML hasnt done anything in the 21st century, its frankly a bastardization of Marx. All tendencies are just following loosely in what some guy said, but the material conditions they were in are vastly different than the ones we are in. Online MLs remind me of preachy evangelicals, always saying “comrade” or preaching down on you while they have the audacity to support Stalin as a great theorist. “the law of value and commodity production continues into communism.” What utter shit. Rant over.
October Revolution was Marxist and Leninist and the formulation that Marxism-Leninism was based off of, so yes it was ML.
If you are so tired of MLs having the sole mantle of successful revolutionaries then try winning a revolution sometime.
Of course all “degenerated worker states” are ML, as MLs are the only ones to create ANY worker states
Imagine making an account to post Trotskyite dribble lol
