Pay attention to Dr. Roy. He just comes out and says it. Just right out and says they should murder undesirable children. Jesus fucking christ.
Look, I’m not against assisted suicide. I think it’s helpful and gives people the ability to control their own fate with dignity.
But Canada is creating a situation where people feel they have no choice but to kill themselves because Canada doesn’t provide sufficient disability benefits for disabled people to afford to live.
Like on it’s own? Assisted suicide? Great idea. Totally support it.
But it’s being used as a tool of social murder, and as this guy shows it’s escalating.
But it’s being used as a tool of social murder, and as this guy shows it’s escalating.
Yeah I mean this doesn’t show that at all. Some children are born with hideous and painful conditions and will not live more than a couple of years in their condition. It’s not evil to consider euthanasia at that point, I’d argue it’s evil to insist that there’s not allowed to even be a conversation that even considers an alternative to the child living every possible day in agony. This isn’t a conversation about SES. I’m not saying a decision is obvious in either direction, both are not great, but to suggest that a person is a Nazi because they have an opinion on this complex topic contrary to yours is just weak.
And I live in Canada btw. A lot of the anti-MAiD shit is stirred up by the religious right who are pushing on all fronts opposition to it. If you don’t live in Canada and know about a weird edge case from there, you may want to consider who was paid to dig it up and put it on blast.
When reading about for example, a man with a neurodegenerative condition who is forced to choose between a home care agency that fed him rotten food and treated him carelessly when transporting his body leading to him getting hurt, or paying 2000 dollars a day for a hospital stay(because the hospital has decided that the home care agency is an adequate long term treatment plan", or just straight up killing himself(something he has recorded hospital staff suggesting to his face), I am not overly concerned if his story is being lifted by the religious right, sorry.
It’s not evil to consider euthanasia at that point
In principle you’re right.
In practice they always start murdering “undesirables”.
In a perfect world we could discuss whether it’s appropriate to consider euthanasia on compassionate grounds. But this isn’t that world. It always turns in to murder. Every time.
And this isn’t edge cases. This is people who either can’t afford palliative care, or live in regions where palliative care options simply don’t exist. This is disabled people whose disability benefits aren’t enough to afford housing. They’re going to expand it to kids and mentally ill people next year and… That’s going to lead to problems. really, really bad problems. Because doctors don’t value the lives of mentally ill people. They don’t give a shit. They think we’re a drag on society.
I’m aware that Catholic freaks are in opposition to this. Their weird religious objections don’t invalidate the clear concerns about a Canadian healthcare system and Canadian disability welfare system that is failing many Canadians. There also is, and has been, a great deal of concern from disability advocates who know exactly how little society values disabled people, and understand the historical precedents for these kinds of programs and the horrific abuses that have occurred.
In a perfect world we could discuss whether it’s appropriate to consider euthanasia on compassionate grounds. But this isn’t that world. It always turns in to murder. Every time
We have to deal with the idea that people are still going to live in pain in the years, generations, possible centuries before the revolution. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be working to ruduce suffering under these conditions.
This is people who either can’t afford palliative care, or live in regions where palliative care options simply don’t exist. This is disabled people whose disability benefits aren’t enough to afford housing.
It very much, 100% isn’t. You can’t just apply for MAiD in Canada because you can’t afford rent. Or rather, you can apply but you won’t get it. edit: I misread your comment. I see what you mean. Yes, I think that is a valid criticism as well, as I mentioned earlier I’m not against those criticisms.
They’re going to expand it to kids and mentally ill people next year
You must understand that it’s also really bad to say you have to live your entire life in agonizing pain because of your anxiety condition. Like excluding people with mental illness from those procedure may be more cruel than including them. Similar with youth. These aren’t easy decisions, but what we’re really doing but passing these laws is just allowing the conversations between the individual, family members and physician to happen with that option on the table if they think it’s appropriate. Kind of similar to how permitting abortion just allows women to have the conversation with their doctor, and make the best decision for them.
