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I would bet my bottom none of us will be either. At least Mary is like, healing the sick.

At least Mary is like, “healing the sick” through the money of her parents and her good education, maybe if we all had those same opportunities and if becoming a doctor didnt have a bunch of arbitrary hurdles set by already existing rich American doctors to get through we’d have more doctors and less doctor worship.

True the AMA is assumed to be good by most people since doctors but it’s kinda fucked

Yeah, that would be cool. Mary is no more or less guilty or innocent about that not being the case tho. And doctors have been held pretty high in cultural standing wayyyyyy before capitalism. Cause they heal the sick and being sick is a bummer.

Youre the one giving them that standing, its only a current feature in our society because we have fucked up laws in who and how many people can practice medicine in the US due to already rich american doctors not wanting competition.

Look into like, any civilization, ever, with few if any exceptions people practicing medicine are appreciated. It is socially reproductive labor. Once again, you’ve done as much to change these laws as Mary, so, how’s it relevant?

Its a great job no one is arguing that, the problem is that to become one in our modern society you have to be insanely lucky (like my best friends sister) or already rich. We should be doing better at this point in the game

Okay, once again, how is this any more any individual medical practioners fault for not changing it any more.than it is your own fault? What are they gonna do? A work stoppage and let people literally die? Its actually a field where you are likely to get to meet several people who will straight up be killed by the system in front of you with you knowing it could have been prevented if it weren’t for the system. It’s not gonna be all doctors but also, you don’t need 100% of people 100% on board, you need the right amount of the right people 100% on board and a sizeable enough amount who are 50% there or higher. They may not become a Revolutionary, but they may support one after it succeeds, if anything they’re on the right track.

Lol so what the fuck is the point of your preaching? Hit dog kinda thing?

Actual class consciousness and not weird childish spite and lashing out about people becoming better because they make decent money. Like, it’s not even an important person they’re upset about. They aren’t a capitalist and they’re becoming a better person. The point in preaching is get the fuck over yourself. I will once again ask, cause I have 2 other times in this thread to no answer: how poor is poor enough to not deserve to be hated? This is a childish and self absorbed perspective. I’m sure their are people worse off who see OP as Mary and I’m certain that Mary is no where near the top of the class pile and probably feels her own class resentment. It’s lib shit to be upset over this person to this extent.

Actual class consciousness and not weird childish spite and lashing out about people becoming better because they make decent money.

Class consciousness does not mean you have to be nice in your mind to every labor aristocrat who discovers that other people exist. We’ve already agreed that these people are not going to be revolutionary, don’t pretend this has anything to do with Socialism.

I will once again ask, cause I have 2 other times in this thread to no answer: how poor is poor enough to not deserve to be hated?

Far below whatever you make, clearly.

1.That’s literally not what labor aristocracy means.

Give me an annual income. I need numbers

1.That’s literally not what labor aristocracy means.

Oh please do enlighten me.

Give me an annual income. I need numbers

Sorry I’m off of my job where I’m a servant to middle class people, I’m not going to dance and clap my hands for you.

The concept of labor aristocracy refers to exploited workers in the first world being in turn exploiters of imperial labor through cheaper products, services etc. Basically NAFTA kinda shit. It’s not really something you can blame an individual for being part of like any other part of the system, it also super does not refer to the fact that doctors make good money.

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