not voting for trump but low key hope biden doesnt win so the material conditions of a failing America will be on full display

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I totally agree with you, my comment wasn’t meant to erase Marxists outside America. My concern was that Marx argued socialism would emerge out of a proletarian revolution located where capitalism is the most developed (i.e. the Imperial core), but in reality, the proletariat of the imperialist core tends to be reactionary. And I agree that propaganda is probably part of the reason, along with the imperialists spoils mentioned by another commenter.

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Yeah “capitalist realism” has definitely taken over most of the imperial core (that is the view that capitalism is the only system that can function in the modern world and we have to work within it to solve our problems). I highly recommend reading Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? by Mark Fisher. It’s a short book, only 90 pages, but very insightful and cool.

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I think part of your confusion is considering white working class people from imperialist countries to be a part of a vanguard. they’re not. they can’t and never will be. if you start looking to the countries getting fucked over by the imperialists, you’ll start finding a lot of revolutionary marxists.

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