not voting for trump but low key hope biden doesnt win so the material conditions of a failing America will be on full display

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I definitely agree with your point here, but I also think that the form of the transition matters a great deal. I often wonder if a future transition to socialism might be served better by focusing on eliminating capitalist class relations as opposed to imposing central control over markets. In other words, a form of market socialism with layers of worker and/or community control over workplaces and the economy, as opposed to a top down state capitalist system. The idea being that as the economic sphere is democratized, decentralized and democratic economic planning would be much easier to implement.

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I am not really an expert, but my understanding is the Titoist Yugoslavia looks closer to what you are describing, might be worth researching (for both of us). I’d argue that the options for such a transition to socialism matter greatly on the material conditions that a given society, and while it can be enjoyable to discuss what we think the best way to do so is, being so prescriptive ends up deep in idealism instead of actual analysis of history that can better guide us forward.

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