Serious question

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context

Are the Picts not Celtic Britons?

permalink
report
parent
reply

Picts are the people who were there before the Celtic migration. nobody really knows where the Celts came from. the most accepted hypothesis is that they came from central europe (modern day austria). newer hypotheses are that they were originally from the Atlantic coast of europe or Gaul

permalink
report
parent
reply

Fair enough. Yeah I’ve always heard the theory they were celts, but it seems that’s becoming dated. They still are a pretty big mystery and what happened to them I don’t think we know yet.

Most likely theory is that they just were absorbed by the Scoti and Britons as well as the angles living in Scotland at the same time.

permalink
report
parent
reply

ancient history is a fuck. all we have are clues and we’re left to connect the dots. but my personal theory is that the Celts originated in Gaul, colonized a bit in the east and west (hence their presence in current day austria and the west coast of europe. then as a result of the romans terrorizing them, migrated north until they colonized terf island and pushed the Picts north. then when the romans came to the isles the Celts were pushed north and mixed with the Picts (who knows how long the Picts were there for, they might have been only a few centuries removed from the Celts)

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

the idea picts are a kind of rump ‘indigenous’ enclave is no longer popular they’ve found some inscriptions & analyzed the names and think they also spoke a celtic language

permalink
report
parent
reply

there is proof they spoke a proto-Celtic language before the mass bronze age migration by the Celts. but this doesnt mean theyre Celts. i would argue it proves the opposite: that the “Celtic” identity originated from that bronze age migration to differentiate themselves from the Picts. even if they share common ancestors only a few centuries prior to that, the Picts are the oldest group we have evidence of existing on terf island.

the fact that they spoke a “proto-Celtic” language only shows that language developed when the Picts’ ancestors lived in mainland europe and there are similarities from the language the Celts used due to common ancestry

or maybe their language was influenced by the Celts after both groups lived on the island

permalink
report
parent
reply

This is what Ive always heard. I thought it was generally accepted they spoke a Brythonic tounge similar in some ways to Welsh.

permalink
report
parent
reply

History

!history@hexbear.net

Create post

Welcome to c/history! History is written by the posters.

c/history is a comm for discussion about history so feel free to talk and post about articles, books, videos, events or historical figures you find interesting

Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember…we’re all comrades here.

Do not post reactionary or imperialist takes (criticism is fine, but don’t pull nonsense from whatever chud author is out there).

When sharing historical facts, remember to provide credible souces or citations.

Historical Disinformation will be removed

Community stats

  • 26

    Monthly active users

  • 5.2K

    Posts

  • 152K

    Comments