Hexbear

9 points

2 years ago

Poppies are definitely more reliable than kratom for getting you high and they don’t have the stimulant effect that can make kratom more… unpredictable. But I would not suggest someone start with poppies over kratom. The main alkaloid you’re getting in poppy pods (or seeds) is straight up morphine. Poppies are going to be stronger in general, they’re going to get a person addicted more easily because you can always just take more to get higher or overcome your build up of tolerance while kratom essentially has a ceiling where after a certain amount, more isn’t going to do anything but literally make you vomit. And because of that last part, most importantly, it’s almost impossible to OD on kratom. That’s not the case with poppies because they don’t have that ceiling and it’s impossible to know how much morphine you’re actually getting when doing poppies.

I have lots of experience with both as well as with harder things.

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6 points

2 years ago

Yeah and you don’t want to get newer pharmaceutical/high thebaine poppies. I generally work on a 1:10-1:15 estimate for morphine content from the dried latex, to taste of course. It’s a biannual thing for me only so small scale works fine, but yes the road is fraught with dangers

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5 points

2 years ago

Sounds like you have it worked out really well. And yeah if you’re using the latex that’s going to be way more consistent and reliable for dose than would be grinding the whole pod and/or using seeds which is usually how I’d do it. If you’re going with straight latex, I personally would just call that opium. (I didn’t have access to the pods I used while they were growing, so I couldn’t go and scar them. When I started with pods it was back during the “floral arrangements” heyday on ebay).

That’s awesome you use them only biannually. I think that’s the way to do it when it comes to recreation.

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5 points

2 years ago

First batch is straight latex, but I do cook down the straw at the end of season too.

I get maybe 2 weeks or 4 weekends each time, is nice, and too laborious to develop a habit.

I feel for those with actual plugs tbh

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7 points

2 years ago

I find that really cool tbh. At-home (or even cooler if it’s guerrilla) seasonal gardening. Being part of their growth and controlling the process literally from start to finish. Plus keeping any habit in check as a result, sounds to me like the ideal kind of relationship if you’re going to have one with opiates. I tried to do something similar once, but they never grew well for me and I was paranoid about some neighbors that hated me.

It really was a blessing but a huge curse back in the day when a person could order a giant box of dried pods for less than $100 and be able to stay high 24/7 for almost a month. That situation didn’t last though, they never do.

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5 points

2 years ago

necessity invents all women, or something. I started with weed because our black market is straight poison these days, then just added to the roster from there. One day I’ll have my own little fairy garden, but for everything else there’s ~~mastercard~~ national parks

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5 points

2 years ago

From my perspective, you’re living the dream! I’ve wanted to do something like that for a very long time. Grew my own weed for a little while (very small operation of 2 plants), but also grew salvia divinorum and just for the hell of it, morning glories. Had plans to start doing the shroom thing, maybe even peyote and see where I went from there. But life got in the way. I sure wish you success and the resulting wonderful experiences with your fairy garden. I’d imagine it’s a pretty rewarding, grounding pursuit, even if it was born out of necessity.

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