I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, democracy simply doesn’t work

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It would also completely remove “ownership” of a subreddit from moderators, meaning that there is essentially no incentive to do it, no feeling of reward for your hard work because your community is yours. They will kill all motivation for moderators.

i would argue that this is a plus point
with the exception of your good self of course

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This is a plus if you don’t want any moderation at all. Why would anyone spend their time moderating a sub for free if there’s nothing in it for them?

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Yeah I agree. But the point is he doesn’t mean it. The tactic being deployed here is to kill popular support among the userbase so that moderators feel compelled to give up. This is why the “landed gentry” shit is being deployed and this is also why he’s going with “we’ll make it more democratic”.

His aim is to use the wider userbase against moderators, knowing full well that the wider userbase is already predisposed to being against mods in the first place.

The correct tactic for organisers to deploy here is “We’re happy to talk about adding more democracy to moderation if Huffman is happy to add more democracy to administrator decisions as well.” Turn it back on him. This all started because absolutely nobody wants to see Apollo or RiF shut down. That’s on reddit, they’re completely capable of solving that but don’t want to. They want them dead. If it were up to the userbase the users would be against it.

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fair enough, i defer to your greater wisdom of the topic at hand

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