Must watch for any non-hexbear and lemmygrad instance users that are looking for a better explanation as to what lead to the Ukraine conflict. Spread it far and wide!
For a longer, more detailed analysis, see this video: https://hexbear.net/post/347122
Let’s do a little mini dunk tank in here and read this: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gravel-institute-deleted-tweets-reveal-a-progressive-groups-ukraine-meltdown
I’ll start: These dishonest little shits at the daily beast conflate the results of the Dec 1991 Ukrainian Independence Referendum with “how many people have a Ukrainian national identity”. As if that referendum didn’t happen in an incredibly tumultuous time in their history, in which circumstances (and a coup or two) had already made the dissolution of the soviet union very much inevitable. And you still saw 45% of ethnic russians vote for it in vain! But liberals are allergic to context.
When we say “they are a tiny minority but these neo nazis have been given disproportionate political power” liberals clap back “nuh uh they’re actually a tiny minority, also look at zelensky” when the video explicitly makes clear that these people and parties do not have majority support (hence why zelensky’s peace platform was popular! The problem is that he didn’t stick to it.)
These dishonest little shits at the daily beast conflate the results of the Dec 1991 Ukrainian Independence Referendum with “how many people have a Ukrainian national identity”. As if that referendum didn’t happen in an incredibly tumultuous time in their history, in which circumstances (and a coup or two) had already made the dissolution of the soviet union very much inevitable.
It’s gone back and forth, back and forth again in history. In the past year and a half though, it’s completely settled. Ukraine definitely wants to be independent of Russia now.
