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I clean for a living right now. It’s not a great job, but the complaints I haveis that I have too little time to do what I want, and that the management keeps fucking us over wither by trying to fix problems that don’t exist, or that they don’t understand. Fix that, and I’d have no complaints.

Also, cleaning ain’t difficult. You could solve it simply by having it be done by people not having anything else to do at the time, before they move onto other stuff. Most of the unpleasantness of any dull job is the creeping dread that you’ll be doing it until you die.

I’d be more worried about finding people to do the dangerous “low status” jobs which require specific competence. But by reducing hours and paying more attention to worker safety, a lot of those would prove more palatable ad well.

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90% of cleaning should be done by the people making the mess. That requires an adjustment in our cultural view of labour. Cleaning isnt below certain people, or certain roles… its simply a part of every role. Specialty cleaning, and cleaning of public spaces, would presumably be automated to some extent - and the folks running the machines, and doing the labour, would just get job benefits to compensate for the shittiness of their work like lower than average working hour, or a fancier place to live.

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