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👏 Then 👏 read 👏 the 👏 Wiki 👏 page 👏

Because that will tell you the answer is 1. One zero. Because the number of dead civilians in the Tiananmen Square Massacre is zero. No civilian deaths there. Nada. Read the wiki page, it will tell you no deaths. This information brought to you by such Commies as:

  • the US Government,
  • the Washington Post correspondent (who was there all night),
  • the CBS correspondent (same),
  • and more!

Were there a limited number of deaths in protests elsewhere that wasn’t Tiananmen? Yep, about 2-3 hundred across a few hundred cities. And that’s bad! But is also pretty dang small relative to the protest size, and happens in all major protests in all countries everywhere.

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This is and has always been a red herring. It’s irrelevant if people were killed in the square or in the streets around the square. People were killed in Beijing by the Chinese military in order to suppress the protests. End of story.

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Well, A massive, purposeful, misinformation campaign by the western governments and news sites that had claimed that there were no deaths in the square in the past and then changed their narrative all of a sudden, would, to me, suggest that these entities might also be misreprenting or lying about the other events. The story obviously does not end there.

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Yes, Western media can definitely not be trusted. Better to get the real story from the secretive, authoritarian government that heavily suppresses speech and directly controls its major media outlets.

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Sorry I forgot to add “Ok but, were they really inside the square, or just near it?”

Spending the first 7/8ths of your comment dancing around the main issue (at a minimum hundreds, thankfully you at least have to admit to that since those are the official Chinese numbers, potentially thousands, of civilian protestors being killed by the Chinese military), laser focusing on some minor detail like it’s a great big gotcha, then brushing the whole thing off at the end with “Yep it’s bad, but it happens shrug” is exactly what I’m talking about

I guess I should at least thank you for so deftly illustrating my point though

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point out the classic tactic of spending a lot of time picking apart minor details in an attempt to discredit the whole

no u

My impression was that you guys were supposed to be more eloquent than this

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A few hundred cities across the country is not “near it” Something like half of the dead were cops or military. You should do some reading about where the weapons that killed them came from. Interesting stuff!

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