Comment by Lovely_sombrero [he/him]@hexbear.net on We love our cannon fodder, don't we folks

As an employee of a neutral newspaper Washington Post, I would just like to loudly say that WE ARE PROFITING FROM THIS WAR, THAT IS WHY THIS WAR IS GOOD.

Nah, the vast majority of them already believe what WaPo believes, they just don’t want to appear rude by saying it out loud. If they cared about Ukrainians, they would be mad at NATO for killing the Ukraine-Russia deal that was made very early into the war and where Ukraine would not lose any territory, but would only have to promise not to ever join NATO.

Lovely_sombrero is talking about the April deal spiked by Boris Johnson’s visit, this article is alleging a deal in late Feb/early March

Oh, when Russia would have had to withdraw to its position on February 23 and therefore Ukraine would sacrifice Donbas and Crimea and hand wave away a bunch of war crimes in exchange for not joining NATO.

Seems like a real balanced solution.

The battle lines have not really moved very much, after 500,000 Ukrainian casualties. Was it worth it?

Sure it’s been worth it, the US has weakened Russia at a relatively low cost (other than for the Ukrainians).

Have they really though? Can you really “weaken” a nuclear power?

Embarrass, yes. Cause a loss of prestige? Of course, but they’re still a nuclear power and that’s never going to change.

Even after the collapse of the Soviet Union, in the 90s they still had a seat at the table in the UN security council and had a say in their sphere of influence. They still had a sphere of influence.

That number is the estimated combined Russian and Ukrainian wounded and casualties. Try to actually be informed instead of parroting tankie talking points comrade.

Set aside whose casualties are whose and look at the loss of life and disfigurements. Was it worth it? Neither side has made any significant military gains since the spring that justifies these casualty numbers

Sorry tankies, people dying in war is actually good

Ukraine sacrificing Crimea? What a cruel thing to make them do, give up land that they’ve had no control over for almost a decade.

Cool, so about ten years after illegal occupation and seizure you’re cool with the rationale of “no takesie backsies” and you still believe Putin will actually stop there.

Have I got a bridge to sell you.

lol illegal occupation and seizure of land whose residents were begging for Russia to help them?

inb4 but muh Ukrainian sovereignty!!!

“Illegal occupation” dude shut the fuck up, the maiden coup goverment was illegal and there’s a reason western media doesn’t bring up the Crimean referendum

Crimeans spoke loud and clear, they are not Ukrainian, they don’t want to be Ukrainian and they sure as shit don’t want their region torn apart by a bunch of nazi banderites

The fact you think Crimea is even up for discussion shows just how ignorant and remote you are from this conflict, read anything besides CNN articles you fascist waterholder

What are your thoughts on South Korea, Taiwan, and (former) South Vietnam? Edit: also Israel

Are you surprised that years of genocide in the Donbas came with a cost?

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