ANOTHER video of police officers killing an unarmed black man. This time in Philly. Protestors already burning cop cars.(twitter.com)

I’m truly sorry you grew up in a situation with lots of violence born out of poverty and have had to deal with lots of trauma. But using that as justification for defaulting to violence in every tense situation… while understandable,…is messed up.

I don’t claim to know or understand your situation, but I’ve been mugged at gun point, etc. too I’m coming from a place of legit critique and not mockery

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crispyhexagon [none/use name]@hexbear.net

4 points

4 years ago

their immediate jump after being told they speak like a rich suburbanite was to “ebonics” and not to reflect on the fact that theyd just equated being poor with being a violent criminal.

as though we didnt all just watch a man die because the cops did that same bigoted math of black=poor=criminal=imminent deadly threat.

like, i appreciate you trying to be understanding and all, but assuming im sheltered is about the least disgusting thing that was thrown out there.

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CantTrip [she/her]@hexbear.net

2 points

4 years ago

Yeah there was more disgusting things but I think it’s prudent to stand firm against people who try to garner support for reactionary/ racist/ fascist notions by claiming it’s endemic to their experience of living in poverty. I see it too much… “calling out to attractive women is just how it is in my neighborhood lol you rich kid scolds wouldn’t last a day here.”

And the you see even true blue leftists rally around that because (a) the current American online left does trend college-educated white so there’s collective guilt and (b) the left purports to value lived experiences as valid in building a world-view

And yeah lived experiences are valid! But when that results in a claim that is reasonable for someone in a extremely powerful and well- equipped organization to use lethal force against someone in a systemically oppressed and brutalized community because of a knife… no no no no no

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crispyhexagon [none/use name]@hexbear.net

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4 years ago

fair enough.

i genuinely just discarded that as nonsensical (shouldnt be a cop? well you grew up rich, internetperson!) and didnt consider that it might be convincing as an argument to anyone.

cause… that last bit is where im at

“when that results in claiming use of lethal force against systemically oppressed people is justified; no.” to paraphrase

anyways, we’re on the same page :rat-salute:

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