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what the fuck do words even mean anymore, read marx jesus christ

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I used to think that Marx was overrated because I never needed to read him but holy shit it’s clear that 95% of the populace cannot form coherent ideologies without being taught them

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Tankie usually refers to Marxism-Leninism (as well the ideologies that derived from it such as Maoism). But there are communist ideologies that don’t derive from ML such as Orthodox Marxism, trotskyism, libertarian Marxism, bulshevism, etc.

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Tankie usually refers to Marxism-Leninism

no it usually refers to whatever the fuck the person posting it seems to think it is, there is not a coherent label for it.

Orthodox Marxism, trotskyism, libertarian Marxism, bulshevism, etc.

Oh cool, which societies use those?

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no it usually refers to whatever the fuck the person posting it seems to think it is, there is not a coherent label for it.

Why are you letting libs define everything? You and I both know they’re dumbasses and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

Oh cool, which societies use those?

Anyone could have said the same to Marx about communism at any point in his life, as he died before the October revolution.

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How would Trotskyism be any less “authoritarian” Than marxism leninism ? Also almost every claims on some level to be “orthodox marxist”, lenin most of all and MLs as well

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8 points

Omg read theory dammit!

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Telling someone to read Marx to understand modern day socialism is like telling someone to read Newton to understand modern day physics tbh.

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Newton to understand modern day physics

I mean yeah, if you want to understand the devolopment of physics you are required to understand the foundations it was built on, this is basic study.

Its like telling someone they should read the bible if they want to be christian, or telling someone they should read the instruction manual if they want to actually know what the terms they are using mean.

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Yeah, you should read Marx if you want to understand the historical development of socialist ideas, but if that’s where your reading ends, then your ideas are stuck in the past.

Socialism isn’ta religious dogma that is inflexible and unchanging. It’s an intellectual idea that grows and becomes more refined over time.

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Yeah, you’re right. It’s also important to read Lenin’s works on imperialism to understand modern socialism. It’s important to study Mao as well.

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