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The US is estimating at least 70,000 Ukranian battlefield deaths. And Russia has likely suffered similar casualties.
There do seem to be more and more Western sources that are at least acknowledging the massive death toll on the Ukranian side, and some talking heads are gently floating the idea of negotiations.
And Russia has likely suffered similar casualties.
I don’t actually see why this would be the case.
The only phase where it seems likely to me that Russia suffered significantly heavier losses than Ukraine was during the push / feint (depending on who you listen to) against Kyiv. The “big arrow” move that then hastily withdrew after taking a beating.
Aside from that episode, it has mostly been an artillery duel where Russia has had a 5:1 to 10:1 advantage in terms of artillery and shells.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Russian losses were almost an entire order of magnitude less than Ukraine given they had up to an order of magnitude more artillery in an artillery duel, and given Ukraine has almost no air power, and given the apparent Russian advantage in kamikaze drones as well.
I’d be surprised if Russian losses were more than half that of Ukraine, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were only 20%, let me put it that way. Lukashenko (obviously biased towards Russia) said losses were 8:1 which is roughly an order of magnitude less, so that would be the lower limit.
The only phase where it seems likely to me that Russia suffered significantly heavier losses than Ukraine was during the push / feint (depending on who you listen to) against Kyiv. The “big arrow” move that then hastily withdrew after taking a beating.
Yeah I think this as well. It seems like they underestimated the defenses of Kiev, although others have suggested that it was always a distraction to take divert Ukranian troops away from the east. Whatever the reason, it seems to me like now the Russians are barely dying and the Ukranians are getting stomped.
others have suggested that it was always a distraction to take divert Ukranian troops away from the east
From what I’ve read this is the most likely scenario, probably combined with an opportunistic “well sure we’ll take the capitol if it’s easy/the government collapses.”
Why would Russia suffer similar casualties when they have been defending for over a year, have vast artillery advantages and vast drone and airpower advantages? Ukraine lost probably 25,000 people in its counter-offensive just to mines since it started. There’s no way the ratio is even somewhat close, which is why Russia isn’t doing additional rounds of mobilization and is drawing this out - they understand they win the attrition war
