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What’s going on in Yemen is incredibly complicated. I’m not condoning everything Saudi Arabia is doing there, far from it, but to call it out as a good vs evil war is frankly a simpleton view. Saudi is bad there. Everyone is bad there. It’s a huge mess. But I think it’s important to recognise that the Saudis aim is to restore order in a neighbourhood country, to prevent Iranian influence from growing and to suppress violent Islamic fundamentalism.

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the Saudis aim is to restore order in a neighbourhood country

When I started reading this thread I really did not expect you to start defending Saudi Arabia to own the tankies ngl

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They did say saudis bad tho, we should give the same nuance we expect from others. I don’t suppose the commenter you’re replying to supports Saudi arabia, it’s just odd that the nuance they’re seemingly willing to grant the saudis wont be given to Russia

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“Restored order” is such a bullshit line

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but the saudis are actually commiting genocide, russia isn’t

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What’s going on in Ukraine is incredibly complicated. I’m not condoning everything Russia is doing there, far from it, but to call it out as a good vs evil war is frankly a simpleton view. Russia is bad there. Everyone is bad there. It’s a huge mess. But I think it’s important to recognise that the Russians’ aim is to restore order in a neighbourhood country, to prevent American influence from growing and to suppress violent Neo-Nazi extremism.

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Every lib’s real values: white people invaded=the good guys

Brown/Black people invaded=it’s complicated

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Ahh that’s why Russia used the Wagner group

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I think sending a nazi-ish mercenarygroup into the meat grinder against an even more nazi-ish group so that they both wipe each other out (like what happened in Bahkmut) is good actually

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to prevent Iranian influence from growing and to suppress violent Islamic fundamentalism.

Lol, Iran is more moderate than Saudi Arabia and bombing and starving populations is how you create radicals.

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And you think somehow the Ukraine situation is cut and dry?

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47 points

The NYT said that one is simple!

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Ahh, well then, if they said so

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s love doing the “its complicated… [handwaving about all sides are bad] …so i support the US position” take

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When it’s the US/West doing something there’s all this room for ‘nuance’ but when it is Bad Country it’s suddenly clear-cut good vs evil.

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Incredible self-own

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I’m not condoning everything Saudi Arabia is doing there, far from it,

but

you girls get annoyed when we’re ‘inconsistent’ (you just misunderstand us on purpose) but you guys are far more inconsistent in the worst ways possible than you even think we are.

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Holy shit man just realize you have no ideology or clue, stop talking and educate yourself on what the actual fuck is going on in the world. It would be a far more productive use of your time.

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But I think it’s important to recognise that the Saudis aim is to restore order in a neighbourhood country, to prevent Iranian influence from growing and to suppress violent Islamic fundamentalism.

“Restoring order is when you bomb hospitals and exacerbate famines and the more people that die, the more order it is.”

The Saudis are committing genocide in Yemen. No ifs, no buts. To claim they have a good reason to be out there doing it is genocide apologia.

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the saudis make a desert and call it peace

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prevent Iranian influence from growing and to suppress violent Islamic fundamentalism.

yeah the saudis are really worried about Islamic fundamentalism

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