Comment by mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de on Defediverse

EDIT: no, I don’t sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they’re losing an argument ;)

Here’s a comment thread where a Hexbear user said “I hope to kill people like you” because I simply said I supported democratic socialism.

Going on any Hexbear instance people froth over telling anyone right of Karl Marx to “get up against the wall”. You guys are, and will always be, a joke.

You said you supported Social Democracy not Democratic Socialism. Dem Socs are well-meaning but idealistic, not optimistic but the political philosophy of idealism. Soc Dems are supporters of a kinder capitalism for the Imperial core but keeping the child slaves mining cobalt in the Congo.

The fact that you think these are the same proves the original posters point that you should read theory. They were harsh but you were implying that keeping exploitation of the third world is preferable to socialism.

Dude you still don’t stop worker exploitation, don’t solve the contradiction of working and capitalist classes, don’t end imperialism or colonialism (social democracy outsources exploitation to the third world)

Ok let me know how your method works out

You said you supported Social Democracy not Democratic Socialism.

What a terrible mistake to make! Perhaps you should have assumed it was the correct orientation of the two words that are spelled exactly the same.

The fact that you think these are the same proves the original posters point that you should read theory.

I have, but thanks for the suggestion.

The abolishinists were mean to me. : 😭😭

The tankies were being tankies, not unexpected.

youre getting into arguments where you don’t know what the words mean, and then acting indignant when people point that out

That’s very ableist of you to conflate dyslexia with stupidity.

Assuming people are using words in the way they are widely and commonly accepted to mean (I mean, just look at Wikipedia for an easy starting point) is not a bad thing?

I’m innudated with endless notifications from you dweebs, mistakes happen.

I’m innudated with endless notifications from you dweebs, mistakes happen.

People keep telling me that I shit my pants based off the way I smell and the growing brown stain on my pants but they’re all tankies because they’re all wrong

What incredible insight. The word ‘social’ is referring to ‘socialism’ and so is the relation between ‘democracy’ and ‘democratic’.

It would take an idiot to mix these up, right?

The word ‘social’ is referring to ‘socialism’ and so is the relation between ‘democracy’ and ‘democratic’.

I guess social security = socialism security in your world? Social welfare programs are not socialism and if your political education included anything beyond Elizabeth Warren’s policy page you’d know that.

No, social policies are not socialism, however, they do generally benefit the working class.

You guys are so worried about centrists that you are ignoring the fact that the US had a far right coup attempt less than three years ago.

What a terrible mistake to make! Perhaps you should have assumed it was the correct orientation of the two words that are spelled exactly the same.

Your beef is with the English Language not me. How is it my fault that you misidentified yourself? Funnily enough, you still don’t identify your actual political position. It’s clear that the only political position you’d take is what gives you an advantage in the argument. Fucking debatebros lol.

I have, but thanks for the suggestion.

Reading so much theory that you confuse two different political ideologies. Sometimes I read so much theory that that I claim to be a monarchist when I really mean to say I’m an anti-monarchist. Obviously the other person should have understood what I meant. Your literally on a communication medium that allows you to plan and edit your comments. You have no excuse for making this grade school mistake.

Debatebro? That’s what Hexbear does best.

I would actually love to engage in good faith discussions, but Hexbear users only operate in bad faith, particularly by sealioning. Like clockwork, you don’t engage in ideas but rather give reading assignments.

I’ve read Das Kapital and agree with virtually all the premises about how society is unfair to those who actually generate the surplus value and think that we need to fix a system that breaks cyclically, as Karl Marx correctly predicted in volume I. The only solutions I’ve seen presented are a total revolution a la 1917, which occured before globalization. Anything close to this in the current globalized world will kill at minimum hundreds of millions globally due to interdependence on products that Marx would consider “needs”, such as medications and medical equipment like dialysis machines.

The difference between you and me is that I’d rather work to reestablish democracy away from capital interests. I don’t want a dictatorship, I want a functional democracy. Propaganda is often used to disillusion the working class from democracy, and if you don’t vote in elections then you are clearly part of the problem.

Edit: Lmao. Citing"theory" gets crickets from the people who endlessly say “you just haven’t read theory”. It’s like they don’t know what to do with someone who reads to understand, rather than “reading” just to virtue signal.

Debatebro? That’s what Hexbear does best.

Hahaha, literally “I know you are but what am I”

reading" just to virtue signal.

Lmao peak angry chud solipsism. “I would never read except to lord it over others, so that must be what these commies are doing.”

Where has it worked?

If course you would, like a good little authoritarian.

In my ideal society I’d give people like you the freedom you deserve.

This you?

Haha, classic Catradora_Stalinism, what a rascal.

She would make a great staffer in the Lubyanka.

She’s probably like 16 dude chill and welcome to the Internet where people fling the most unhinged nonsense at each other without a second thought

An aggressive communist with no sense of how the world works could be a child? You’re the most self aware Hexbear user.

Also lol to “dude chill”. I’m not the one fantasizing about murdering people.

Nah the capitalist system you cheer for murders people just fine, Mr. Welfare-capitalism-is-actually-socialism

She’s not here, do you want me to pop into that thread and chastise her for you?

My mind just boggles at the fact that anyone is taking this two bit reddit clone seriously enough to carry a grudge longer that the lifespan of a single thread.

You’re doing a lot of coping with that seething.

welcome to the Internet where people fling the most unhinged nonsense at each other without a second thought

TIL I am internetting wrong lol.

For me personally, flinging unhinged shit at other users is tiring. I find it much easier to either be nice or abandon ship

mfer im in college im crying ahhhhhhhh

Hah classic Catradora bamboozle you rascal.

IM NOT CRINGE! IM NOT CRINGE! IM BASED! BASED!

I support what are realistic policies actually will push the status quo in the direction you want.

Larping on the internet waiting for a revolution to occur seems like a nice fantasy.

There are numerous democratic socialists who are in Congress, you just aren’t paying attention.

Run for office. There have been many spoilers from genuine grassroots campaigns. Don’t want to do either? Keep coping and seething online.

The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house. Entryism always ends up changing the entrant instead of the system. We are revolutionary socialists.

It’s clear you never studied US politics if you think that is remotely true. The Gilded Age and the Great Depression briefly pushed America away from corporate interests towards policy that benefited the working class. We averted overt fascism a la the Business Plot and the ratfucking that Smedley Butler disclosed while being the most badass anti-capitalist ever.

You’re not a revolutionary socialist, you’re a larper who won’t do anything to better the world other than wait for this revolution like it’s the second coming of Christ.

You guys are the QAnon of the left.

I’m talking about Emmanuel Goldstein. Anyone I can possibly list will never meet your purity test.

I too support democratic socialism

Allende just needed more people’s militias

I’m not sure if you are aware of this, but the Allende thing is more a US intervention problem that a democratic socialism problem. Certainly Mohammad Mosaddegh would agree.

So socialism, if it has any degree of democracy to it, which is kind of essential to socialism, is evil in your eyes.

What version of decision making is acceptable in socialism then?

Just one party rule?

because I simply said I supported democratic socialism.

so you promoted violence first?
i’m failing to see your complaint here

Extreme violence is still violence. Industrial violence on a massive scale is still violence. You are advocating for violence, terrible violence, and then getting upset someone else advocated for comparatively mild violence.

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