I shall crawl further and further into my echo chamber until I will have finally achieved socialism all by myself
Social-democracy is capitalism. Social-democrats are not socialists
Lenin/Stalin/Mao and Castro did not go “we need to work with capitalists” lol. They conquered them and in some instances shot them.
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To build up industry did Lenin work with capitalists? Or was the communist party in control of the industry and the economy?
Dengs a revisionist so not sure what your point is
Correct. Stalin never made deals with Fascists. He historically never invaded Poland alongside Hitler in 1939
I mean Mao worked with the “Nationalist Bourgeoise” or whatever right? Granted they were subordinate to the party and the circumstances in feudal china and capitalist usa are different.
China was not an imperialist country though
In fact the exact opposite - they were a colonial country held in shackles by the imperial powers /Japan/uk/France and USA
So China was a communist revolution and a national liberation struggle against capitalist imperialism described in Lenins Right Of Nations To Self Determination
The equivalent item (if we’re trying to find one) is the Communist Party of China working with Uncle Tom Chinese that collaborated with the foreigners
They didn’t…they shot them
You’re absolutely right. Stalin would never ally with capitalists like Churchill, and Mao would never consider forming a United Front with a capitalist like Chang Kai-shek. The history understander has logged on.
Yes thats absolutely comparable
Having conquered political power in their own countries and made concessions against super powers in foreign policy is the same as lining up behind a succdem in the imperial core
Having conquered political power in their own countries
Do you know anything about Chinese history? Like, at all?
is the same as lining up behind a succdem in the imperial core
It’s almost as if Stalin and Mao didn’t live in the imperial core and aren’t perfect examples for operating within it.
