I’m not on Twitter, so I get my news elsewhere, but most of the actual pictures I see are from here. So is there some kind of bias where only the fascist imagery gets posted here in the the dunk tank? Or do the libs scrolling through Ukrainian posts on Twitter literally see and ignore fascist imagery on every single post? Like, if they see 1000 Ukrainian soldiers, will they see 1000 fascist symbols?
Wow, that’s… incredible. The CIA has done some fucked up shit, but that’s something else entirely. Do you have a quality source on this? I’d like to follow up on this claim.
Edit: holy shit
It makes me so fucking mad how much of this shit you can learn just from their own declassified documents. They’re not even trying to hide it
yet liberals will still scream “CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!” at you for pointing at things they publicly admit on the record lol
I hope I’m alive to see how history will contextualize america’s decades-long nazi support around the world in the context of wwi - russian revolution - wwii - cold war - whatever is coming.
When we consider the history of all societies to be the history of class struggles, it’s maddening to think that chain of events as capitalists trying everything in their power to keep profits going and growing and combating workers that try to do take the next step. I also think wwii nazism is still not the worst that capitalists can possibly do to stop communism. The worst is still to happen and america will be the actor.
I’ve spent some time to find an account that’s properly federated to Hexbear just to comment, because wow, if I never doubted that the U.S. were meddling in Ukrainian affairs (what with the leaked phone calls and all that jazz), I can see that the beast is way bigger than expected; it made me understand this server’s perspective better. And to think they don’t even hide it…
Honestly, even if you all didn’t change your tone but just added this kind of links to your comments, you’d have an easier time convincing people.
I’ve been on hexbear for years and I didn’t know this tidbit, although I was aware that GLADIO stuff like this has happened. Learn new things every time I visit here lol.
If you wish to understand the leftist perspective on the US beyond the “tankies just think everything the US does is automatically bad”, I strongly recommend that you read Killing Hope and The Jakarta Method. Arming and supporting fascists to slaughter and subjugate everything that looked even vaguely socialist or just wanted to be unaligned during the Cold War has been business as usual for many decades and Ukraine is just a bullet point in a very long and bloody list. Fair warning: the stuff in those books can make you extremely angry. I legit had to put Killing Hope down and go do something else after going through the Guatemala chapter to shake off the utter disgust.
Edit: holy shit
This exact thought has created hundreds of thousands of marxist-leninists over the years. Stick around, you’ll have a lot of these moments.
If you also accept people that feel closer to the anarchist ideals (not the “I’m free to do what I want, no rulez!!” type), I’ll do.
I had not. I looked it up and have since bought the book, and just… I have no words that can really do it justice.
It’s a lot, but it’s a really good (and important) read. I found that, for me, it really hammered home how much of the conflict out there is class war where the nazi’s and their adjacents ( neo-nazis, kkk, christo-fascists, mujahideen, etc) are ultimately just the foot-soldiers of capital against the workers of the world.
Unfortunately, The Jakarta Method just kinda scratches the surface of the horrors of the last century. I definitely recommend Vijay Prishad’s Washington Bullets for a more broad overview of what Jakarta Method covers at an individual level. Also, The Blowback podcast is great, especially Season 2 if you’re looking for CIA shenanigans. I’ve not read a book on it yet, but Operation Gladio is also pretty important when it comes to the CIA and supporting nazis and other fash.
Project Aerodynamic was one part of the CIA network of Ukrainian Banderite Nazis creating propaganda literature.
https://www.foiaresearch.net/project/aerodynamic
This nazi was the main guy involved in running the operation. Prolog Research was his publishing firm funded by the CIA to generate anti-soviet pro-Ukrainian nationalist books.
From 1949, Lebed lived in the United States. During 1952–1974, he headed the Prolog Research Center in New York; in 1982–85, he was Deputy Chairman and since 1974 he was a Member of the Board of Directors of the institution. In 1956-91 he was a member of the board of the Ukrainian Society of Foreign Studies in Munich and Toronto, publishing committee "Chronicle of the UPA (1975). Author memories “UPA” (1946, 1987). Thanks to his collaboration with the CIA and their active shielding of him, Lebed was never tried for the war crimes he and his men had committed against Poles and Jews during WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykola_Lebed
The works published through Prolog later became incorporated into history curriculum to cement the false narratives they had established.
More about that here: https://www.villagevoice.com/in-search-of-a-soviet-holocaust/
